From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 0/9] x86: feature words array (v11) + "feature-words" property
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 17:23:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130503172347.306a2ddc@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5183D0A4.7000200@suse.de>
On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:58:44 +0200
Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
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> Am 02.05.2013 21:48, schrieb Eric Blake:
> > On 05/02/2013 01:43 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As mentioned earlier I'd prefer to defer the property design
> >>> rather than putting it lightly reviewed into 1.5 and living
> >>> with some ABI. If libvirt urgently needs this info, this series
> >>> needs to be reviewed and sorted out until the weekend (Hard
> >>> Freeze on Monday).
> >>
> >> I consider it an important bugfix for the QEMU+libvirt stack.
> >> The current libvirt behavior (checking CPUID directly; not using
> >> the "enforce" flag; and having its own copy of each CPU model
> >> definition) is unsafe and may break live-migration silently under
> >> many circumstances.
> >
> > I agree that libvirt would very much like to have this in 1.5. How
> > can I help in reviewing things?
>
> Apart from the usual QMP considerations that you will know much better
> than me, I have two concerns here:
> 1) Polluting the QOM namespace with this dump-all implementation for
> libvirt and interfering with more fine-grained property getters/setters.
I think feature-words could be replaced with fine-grained feature properties
eventually.
> 2) Basing its design on current code of which we are not sure yet how
> it may evolve and having to live with that for ABI stability.
> Like I said, I hadn't reviewed that part yet, so couldn't pick it up
> on short notice. If we get it respun and reviewed today, I can (try
> to) prepare a PULL on Sunday.
>
> On Igor's series (latest: v7 from Feb 25) I had more or less nack'ed
> the attempt to introduce f-* properties due to Anthony asking for
I don't recall it being nacked or any other way commented.
> verbose QOM property names, so we're in need of a better name, likely
> something with "feature" in it, similar to what is being proposed here.
> I had also argued with Anthony that QOM's object_property_add_bool()
> should allow us to create a container object for accessing features in
> a more simple way, such as .../icc/child[0]/cpuid-features/foo rather
> than f-foo or feature-foo or foo-feature to avoid the constant
> repetition and an unreadable long list of CPU properties, but the
> addition of an opaque to support this was turned down.
what if FeatureWordArray inherits from Object?
than it would be trivial to create /icc/child[0]/cpuid-features/ where
"cpuid-features" will be FeatureWordArray and each feature it's child?
> So it boils down to the questions of where do we want to expose which
> information, how should it be structured and where does/will that
> information come from. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
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Regards,
Igor
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-03 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-22 19:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 0/9] x86: feature words array (v11) + "feature-words" property Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 1/9] target-i386: cleanup: Group together level, xlevel, xlevel2 fields Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 2/9] target-i386/kvm.c: Code formatting changes Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-01 22:55 ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 3/9] target-i386/cpu.c: Break lines so they don't get too long Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 4/9] target-i386: Replace cpuid_*features fields with a feature word array Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-01 23:03 ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-02 15:06 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 5/9] target-i386: Add ECX information to FeatureWordInfo Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-03 15:16 ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-03 15:54 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-06 16:27 ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 6/9] target-i386: Add "feature-words" property Eduardo Habkost
2013-04-22 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2013-04-23 19:25 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-03 11:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2013-05-03 13:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-03 14:25 ` Eric Blake
2013-05-03 14:57 ` Eric Blake
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 7/9] target-i386: Use FeatureWord loop on filter_features_for_kvm() Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-03 15:01 ` Eric Blake
2013-05-06 16:28 ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 8/9] target-i386: Introduce X86CPU.filtered_features field Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-03 15:03 ` Eric Blake
2013-04-22 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 9/9] target-i386: Add "filtered-features" property to X86CPU Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-03 15:10 ` Eric Blake
2013-05-01 22:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qom-cpu 0/9] x86: feature words array (v11) + "feature-words" property Andreas Färber
2013-05-02 19:43 ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-05-02 19:48 ` Eric Blake
2013-05-03 14:58 ` Andreas Färber
2013-05-03 15:23 ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2013-05-03 15:31 ` Eric Blake
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