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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
To: James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux EFI <linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	X86-ML <x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:24:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130603162435.GA22563@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370276286.2910.29.camel@dabdike>

On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 09:18:06AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:

> I don't entirely buy that.  All EFI programs run with the physical
> address map, therefore every API an EFI program uses is also tested, at
> boot time only, obviously.

That seems optimistic. Windows never calls QueryVariableInfo() during 
boot services, so what makes you think doing so has ever been tested?

> However, the ExitBootServices() code seems to be much simpler, so I 
> don't think it will cause too many bugs.  The UEFI test suites also 
> seem to try UEFI calls before and after ExitBootServices(), so I think 
> relying on a 1:1 mapping looks safer to me.

I have no expectation that the majority of system vendors run the test 
suite, but I have every expectation that every system vendor runs 
Windows. We should behave as close to the tested mechanism as possible, 
ie do what Windows does - and that includes calling 
SetVirtualAddressMap().

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linux EFI <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, X86-ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:24:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130603162435.GA22563@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370276286.2910.29.camel@dabdike>

On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 09:18:06AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:

> I don't entirely buy that.  All EFI programs run with the physical
> address map, therefore every API an EFI program uses is also tested, at
> boot time only, obviously.

That seems optimistic. Windows never calls QueryVariableInfo() during 
boot services, so what makes you think doing so has ever been tested?

> However, the ExitBootServices() code seems to be much simpler, so I 
> don't think it will cause too many bugs.  The UEFI test suites also 
> seem to try UEFI calls before and after ExitBootServices(), so I think 
> relying on a 1:1 mapping looks safer to me.

I have no expectation that the majority of system vendors run the test 
suite, but I have every expectation that every system vendor runs 
Windows. We should behave as close to the tested mechanism as possible, 
ie do what Windows does - and that includes calling 
SetVirtualAddressMap().

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-03 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-02 12:56 [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found] ` <1370177770-26661-1-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 1/4] efi: Convert runtime services function ptrs Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 10:07     ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]       ` <20130606100745.GF30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-11  6:49         ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-11  6:49           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]           ` <20130611064912.GG31198-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-11  9:33             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-11  9:33               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 2/4] x86, cpa: Map in an arbitrary pgd Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <1370177770-26661-3-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 10:22       ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-06 10:22         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20130606102233.GG30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:24           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 13:24             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 13:30             ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]               ` <20130606133023.GJ30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:33                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 13:33                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86, efi: Add an efi= kernel command line parameter Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <1370177770-26661-4-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04 12:18       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-04 12:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 10:42       ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-06 10:42         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20130606104224.GH30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:26           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 13:26             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]             ` <20130606132603.GD20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:36               ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-06 13:36                 ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-06 17:50               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 17:50                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                 ` <20130606175052.GA1285-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 18:51                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 18:51                     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                     ` <20130606185140.GK20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:35                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 19:35                         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                         ` <20130606193548.GA2946-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:41                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 19:41                             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                             ` <20130606194134.GN20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:54                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 19:54                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:07                                 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                   ` <20130606200705.GO20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:18                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:18                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:27                                       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                         ` <20130606202717.GP20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:30                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:30                                             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                             ` <20130606203057.GA4237-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:44                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 20:44                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                 ` <20130606204410.GQ20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:50                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:50                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130606205057.GA4363-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 21:02                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 21:02                                                         ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130606210218.GR20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 21:03                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 21:03                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 4/4] x86, efi: Map runtime services 1:1 Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <1370177770-26661-5-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:14       ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-06 13:14         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20130606131439.GI30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:29           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 13:29             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]             ` <20130606132908.GE20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 15:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 15:58                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 19:28                 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <51B0E2D4.3040007-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:36                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 19:36                       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                       ` <20130606193612.GM20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:38                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 19:38                           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                           ` <51B0E522.4070005-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-10 12:55                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-10 12:55                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 22:56 ` [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping Matthew Garrett
     [not found]   ` <20130602225620.GA5496-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03  8:11     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-03  8:11       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]       ` <20130603081148.GB13607-K5JNixvcfoxupOikMc4+xw@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 14:27         ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 14:27           ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 14:30           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 14:30             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 14:38             ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 15:21               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 15:21                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 16:18                 ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 16:24                   ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-06-03 16:24                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                     ` <20130603162435.GA22563-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 16:35                       ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 16:35                         ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 16:42                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 16:42                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                           ` <20130603164237.GA23146-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 18:05                             ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 18:05                               ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 18:11                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 18:11                                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                 ` <20130603181110.GA25060-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 21:19                                   ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 21:19                                     ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 21:29                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 21:29                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-10  3:59                             ` Linux, UEFI, and Chromebooks (was RE: [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping) Yuhong Bao
2014-02-10  3:59                               ` Yuhong Bao
2013-06-03 14:32       ` [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping Matthew Garrett
     [not found]         ` <20130603143252.GB20252-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 14:54           ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-03 14:54             ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]             ` <20130603145412.GJ2004-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04  8:15               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-04  8:15                 ` Borislav Petkov

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