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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/06] ARM: shmobile: Introduce SHMOBILE_FIXUP() helper
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:27:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201306101727.29876.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANqRtoSKAm_9VXus=zzer2ELrS2NmZ=znZCSJH65imTXGk5ong@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday 10 June 2013, Magnus Damm wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 June 2013, Magnus Damm wrote:
> 
> My approach with this series was more to make sure all boards keep on
> working regardless what their boot loader pass. This since I too do
> not trust the boot loader - especially on older boards. Perhaps the
> more acceptable approach is to pretend to start trusting the
> information by the boot loader and deal with the fallout if that
> happens. Things may break when removing CONFIG_MEMORY_START/SIZE since
> the MEM_SIZE and PHYS_OFFSET change in arch/arm/kernel/atags_parse.c
> 
> Anyway I can update my romImage series so it uses appended DTB with
> both AP4EVB and Mackerel. Then this series can simply be thrown away.

That sounds like a good idea, but it seems that AP4EVB does not
yet use DT_MACHINE_START, so I suspect you will need more work.

> > The easiest way is probably to declare that multiplatform booting
> > on shmobile is only supported for DT-enabled boards and that support
> > for non-DT booting will be removed at the same time as
> > non-multiplatform booting on shmobile. This is the same thing we are
> > doing e.g. on Exynos and the various Marvell embedded (non-PXA/MMP)
> > chips.  The time line for this not set yet, and I think that will
> > be one of the hot topics at this year's ARM subarch maintainer summit
> > that I hope we will have the chance to do during the kernel summit.
> > FWIW, my take on this is that at some point we will require both DT
> > and multiplatform for all ARMv6 and ARMv7 platforms anyway (not
> > for the older ones, in particular StrongARM and XScale), but we have
> > to come up with a timing that works for everyone.
> 
> Yeah, I agree with your idea but I wonder about the timing. Actually,
> I was thinking that the prime candidate boards for multiplatform are
> our DT -reference boards. Still blocked on common clock framework
> though... I will try to sort out the memory bits first.

Ok.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 01/06] ARM: shmobile: Introduce SHMOBILE_FIXUP() helper
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:27:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201306101727.29876.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANqRtoSKAm_9VXus=zzer2ELrS2NmZ=znZCSJH65imTXGk5ong@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday 10 June 2013, Magnus Damm wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 June 2013, Magnus Damm wrote:
> 
> My approach with this series was more to make sure all boards keep on
> working regardless what their boot loader pass. This since I too do
> not trust the boot loader - especially on older boards. Perhaps the
> more acceptable approach is to pretend to start trusting the
> information by the boot loader and deal with the fallout if that
> happens. Things may break when removing CONFIG_MEMORY_START/SIZE since
> the MEM_SIZE and PHYS_OFFSET change in arch/arm/kernel/atags_parse.c
> 
> Anyway I can update my romImage series so it uses appended DTB with
> both AP4EVB and Mackerel. Then this series can simply be thrown away.

That sounds like a good idea, but it seems that AP4EVB does not
yet use DT_MACHINE_START, so I suspect you will need more work.

> > The easiest way is probably to declare that multiplatform booting
> > on shmobile is only supported for DT-enabled boards and that support
> > for non-DT booting will be removed at the same time as
> > non-multiplatform booting on shmobile. This is the same thing we are
> > doing e.g. on Exynos and the various Marvell embedded (non-PXA/MMP)
> > chips.  The time line for this not set yet, and I think that will
> > be one of the hot topics at this year's ARM subarch maintainer summit
> > that I hope we will have the chance to do during the kernel summit.
> > FWIW, my take on this is that at some point we will require both DT
> > and multiplatform for all ARMv6 and ARMv7 platforms anyway (not
> > for the older ones, in particular StrongARM and XScale), but we have
> > to come up with a timing that works for everyone.
> 
> Yeah, I agree with your idea but I wonder about the timing. Actually,
> I was thinking that the prime candidate boards for multiplatform are
> our DT -reference boards. Still blocked on common clock framework
> though... I will try to sort out the memory bits first.

Ok.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-05  7:34 [PATCH 00/06] ARM: shmobile: Per-board memory size fixups Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34 ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:31 ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:31   ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34 ` [PATCH 01/06] ARM: shmobile: Introduce SHMOBILE_FIXUP() helper Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34   ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05 19:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 19:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 23:47     ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05 23:47       ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-06 17:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-06 17:17         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-10  7:22         ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-10  7:22           ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-10 15:27           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2013-06-10 15:27             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-06 16:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-06 16:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-05  7:34 ` [PATCH 02/06] ARM: shmobile: AG5EVM memory size fixup Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34   ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34 ` [PATCH 03/06] ARM: shmobile: AP4EVB " Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34   ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34 ` [PATCH 04/06] ARM: shmobile: Bonito " Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34   ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34 ` [PATCH 05/06] ARM: shmobile: Kota2 " Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34   ` Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34 ` [PATCH 06/06] ARM: shmobile: Marzen " Magnus Damm
2013-06-05  7:34   ` Magnus Damm

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