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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "Lai Jiangshan" <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Dipankar Sarma" <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	niv@us.ibm.com, "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <darren@dvhart.com>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC ticketlock] Auto-queued ticketlock
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:45:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130611164503.GI5146@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370964165.9844.172.camel@gandalf.local.home>

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:22:45AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 03:14 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >  
> > > Off-topic, although I am in this community for several years,
> > > I am not exactly clear with this problem.
> > > 
> > > 1) In general case, which lock is the most competitive in the kernel? what it protects for?
> > > 2) In which special case, which lock is the most competitive in the kernel? what it protects for?
> > > 3) In general case, which list is the most hot list?
> > > 4) In which special case, which list is the most hot list?
> > 
> > Others would know better than I, but mmap_sem has been called out as a
> 
> If the contention is with mmap_sem, then I doubt this is going to help
> much, as that's a sleeping rw semaphore. Now, rw semaphores are
> implemented with raw spinlocks, but I doubt that would be the main point
> of contention, compared to the sleeping part.

If I remember correctly, someone actually hit this earlier this year,
which prompted use of a special-purpose queued lock to guard the
semaphore data.  I don't recall whether it was mmap_sem or not, so
cannot say whether it was a straight mutex or an rw semaphore.

							Thanx, Paul

> -- Steve
> 
> > prime offender for some workloads.  There is of course some debate as
> > to whether the fault lies mmap_sem or with the workloads.  There have
> > been some efforts to solve this one on LKML, plus some in academia have
> > worked on this as well:
> > 
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-11 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09 19:36 [PATCH RFC ticketlock] Auto-queued ticketlock Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 20:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-10 20:57   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 21:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-06-10 21:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 21:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-10 21:30   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 21:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-10 21:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 23:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11  0:22   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11  0:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11  0:51   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-11  7:53     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-11 10:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 15:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 16:45           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-06-11 10:06     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:53     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-11 18:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 18:10       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 18:14         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-11 18:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 17:50         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-12 18:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-12 20:03             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-12 20:26               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-12 20:40                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-12 21:06                 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-06-12 23:32                 ` Al Viro
2013-06-13  0:01                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-13  0:20                     ` Al Viro
2013-06-13  0:38                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-13  0:49                         ` Al Viro
2013-06-13  0:59                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-14 15:00                             ` Waiman Long
2013-06-14 15:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-14 18:17                                 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-15  1:26                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-15  3:36                                     ` Waiman Long
2013-06-12 20:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-12 18:18           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11  9:56   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 15:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11  1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11  9:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 14:48 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-11 15:10   ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-11 16:48     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-11 17:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 16:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 15:57 ` Waiman Long
2013-06-11 16:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 16:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 17:43         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:35     ` Waiman Long
2013-06-11 16:36   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:01     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 17:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 18:41     ` Waiman Long
2013-06-11 18:54       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-11 19:49       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 20:09         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 20:32           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 20:53             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 20:25         ` Jason Low
2013-06-11 20:36           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 20:56         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 21:09           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12  1:19         ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12  1:58           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-12 10:12             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 11:06             ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 14:21               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 14:15         ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 14:44           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC ticketlock] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-11 17:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-11 17:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-11 17:52     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 15:40   ` [PATCH RFC ticketlock] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-12 16:13     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-12 16:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-13  2:55     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-13 15:22       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-13 23:25         ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-13 23:57           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-14  1:28             ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-14 23:49               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-14  7:12             ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-06-14 23:46               ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]     ` <CAC4Lta3dpTDc19rXLVQkZrxbu8AJL+Foc6ocAktUAozCpk2-Mg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-01  9:19       ` Raghavendra KT
2013-07-02  5:56         ` Paul E. McKenney

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