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From: Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Alex Williamson
	<alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	stephen-OTpzqLSitTUnbdJkjeBofR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] iommu: Quirked PCIe bridge test and search function
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:15:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130620161538.GH3589@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1371743091.32709.52.camel-85EaTFmN5p//9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:44:51AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 15:59 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:40:20PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > +	if (!pci_is_root_bus(pdev->bus)) {
> > > +		struct pci_dev *parent = pdev->bus->self;
> > > +
> > > +		if (pci_is_pcie(parent) &&
> > > +		    pci_pcie_type(parent) != PCI_EXP_TYPE_PCI_BRIDGE)
> > > +			return true;
> > > +	}
> > 
> > Hmm, that looks a bit dangerous.
> 
> How so?  The algorithm seems pretty simple and logical.

It is simple, but it is still a heuristic that may fail at some point,
no?

> Actually, I believe Bjorn rejected the idea of a fixed list because this
> problem is detectable.  He also doesn't want me messing with quirks to
> pci_is_pcie() in PCI because he wants a 1:1 relation between that and
> having a PCIe capability.  So, I'm stuck and this is where it's ended
> up.  Thanks,

I think implementing such a list is much safer.

Bjorn, why didn't you like that idea?


	Joerg

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	stephen@networkplumber.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	ddutile@redhat.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] iommu: Quirked PCIe bridge test and search function
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:15:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130620161538.GH3589@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1371743091.32709.52.camel@ul30vt.home>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:44:51AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 15:59 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:40:20PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > +	if (!pci_is_root_bus(pdev->bus)) {
> > > +		struct pci_dev *parent = pdev->bus->self;
> > > +
> > > +		if (pci_is_pcie(parent) &&
> > > +		    pci_pcie_type(parent) != PCI_EXP_TYPE_PCI_BRIDGE)
> > > +			return true;
> > > +	}
> > 
> > Hmm, that looks a bit dangerous.
> 
> How so?  The algorithm seems pretty simple and logical.

It is simple, but it is still a heuristic that may fail at some point,
no?

> Actually, I believe Bjorn rejected the idea of a fixed list because this
> problem is detectable.  He also doesn't want me messing with quirks to
> pci_is_pcie() in PCI because he wants a 1:1 relation between that and
> having a PCIe capability.  So, I'm stuck and this is where it's ended
> up.  Thanks,

I think implementing such a list is much safer.

Bjorn, why didn't you like that idea?


	Joerg



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-20 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-28 18:40 [PATCH v2 0/2] iommu/intel: Quirk non-compliant PCIe-to-PCI bridges Alex Williamson
     [not found] ` <20130528183527.3318.5365.stgit-xdHQ/5r00wBBDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-28 18:40   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] iommu: Quirked PCIe bridge test and search function Alex Williamson
2013-05-28 18:40     ` Alex Williamson
2013-05-28 19:38     ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-05-28 19:53       ` Alex Williamson
2013-05-28 19:56         ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-05-28 20:15           ` Alex Williamson
2013-05-28 20:28             ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]     ` <20130528184020.3318.7800.stgit-xdHQ/5r00wBBDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 13:59       ` Joerg Roedel
2013-06-20 13:59         ` Joerg Roedel
2013-06-20 15:44         ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]           ` <1371743091.32709.52.camel-85EaTFmN5p//9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 16:15             ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2013-06-20 16:15               ` Joerg Roedel
2013-06-26  4:20               ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                 ` <CAErSpo5_P9tPdmpq2XO-X-d5NUWFG8Nbm_byKOkd5d4b8UMcMQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-26 18:45                   ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-26 18:45                     ` Alex Williamson
2013-06-26 19:11                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-05-28 22:09   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] iommu/intel: Quirk non-compliant PCIe-to-PCI bridges Bjorn Helgaas
2013-05-28 22:09     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-05-28 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 3/2] pci: Remove unused pci_find_upstream_pcie_bridge() Alex Williamson
2013-05-28 22:53     ` Alex Williamson
2013-07-08 17:07   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] iommu/intel: Quirk non-compliant PCIe-to-PCI bridges Alex Williamson
2013-07-08 17:07     ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]     ` <1373303240.2602.28.camel-85EaTFmN5p//9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-08 19:34       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-07-08 19:34         ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]         ` <20130708193436.GA31985-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-08 20:49           ` Alex Williamson
2013-07-08 20:49             ` Alex Williamson
2013-07-08 21:51             ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]               ` <20130708215131.GA1168-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-09 18:27                 ` Alex Williamson
2013-07-09 18:27                   ` Alex Williamson
2013-07-09 20:10                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-07-30 11:52       ` Joerg Roedel
2013-07-30 11:52         ` Joerg Roedel
2013-05-28 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] intel-iommu: Convert to iommu_pci_find_upstream + iommu_pci_is_pcie_bridge Alex Williamson

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