From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
holt@sgi.com, travis@sgi.com, rob@landley.net,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, yinghai@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] x86_64, mm: Reinsert the absent memory
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:39:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130624193959.GB4065@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C88400.7090907@zytor.com>
* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 06/23/2013 02:32 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Yet another thing to consider would be to implement an initialization
> >> speedup of 3 orders of magnitude: initialize on the large page (2MB)
> >> grandularity and on-demand delay the initialization of the 4K granular
> >> struct pages [but still allocating them] - which I suspect are a good
> >> chunk of the overhead? That way we could initialize in 2MB steps and speed
> >> up the 2 hours bootup of 32 TB of RAM to 14 seconds...
> >>
> >> [ The cost would be one more branch in the buddy allocator, to detect
> >> not-yet-initialized 2 MB chunks as we encounter them. Acceptable I
> >> think. ]
> >
> > One advantage of this scheme would be that we could use it on pretty much
> > any box, it would provide instant boot time speedups everywhere [a couple
> > of hundred msecs on a small 4GB box - significant I think] - and would
> > spread out and parallelize initialization to later stages.
>
> Even better if we could start at the 1 GB level, which most of these
> really huge machines will have hardware support for.
That might be a bit too granular: if we hit such an uninitialized block of
memory we'd have to process 262,144 pages - potentially from an IRQ
handler that does GFP_ATOMIC... or other latency critical code.
With 2MB we'd have to on-demand initialize 512 pages, which shouldn't show
up during normal use.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-24 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-21 16:25 [RFC 0/2] Delay initializing of large sections of memory Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 16:25 ` [RFC 1/2] x86_64, mm: Delay initializing large portion " Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-25 4:14 ` Rob Landley
2013-06-21 16:25 ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64, mm: Reinsert the absent memory Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-23 9:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-23 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24 17:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-24 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-06-24 20:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 7:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24 20:36 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-25 7:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25 15:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 17:19 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 17:22 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:51 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26 9:22 ` [RFC] Transparent on-demand memory setup initialization embedded in the (GFP) buddy allocator Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 13:28 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-26 13:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 15:02 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 16:15 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26 12:14 ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64, mm: Reinsert the absent memory Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 14:49 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 15:12 ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-26 15:20 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 15:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 16:11 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 16:07 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 16:51 ` [RFC 0/2] Delay initializing of large sections of memory Greg KH
2013-06-21 17:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-21 17:18 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 17:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-21 20:05 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 20:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-21 20:33 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 21:36 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 21:07 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 18:44 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 18:50 ` Greg KH
2013-06-21 19:10 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 19:19 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 20:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 20:40 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 21:30 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-22 0:23 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 17:35 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:40 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:40 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 18:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:58 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 19:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 19:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 19:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-27 6:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-27 11:05 ` Robin Holt
2013-06-27 15:50 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25 18:38 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-25 18:42 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 18:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-06-21 19:00 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-06-21 21:28 ` Mike Travis
2013-06-21 21:19 ` Mike Travis
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