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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: jeremy@goop.org, gregkh@suse.de, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, riel@redhat.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
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	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:48:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130711094833.GC8575@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DE771F.7070805@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 02:43:03PM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 07/10/2013 04:03 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> [...] trimmed
> 
> >>>Yes. you are right. dynamic ple window was an attempt to solve it.
> >>>
> >>>Probelm is, reducing the SPIN_THRESHOLD is resulting in excess halt
> >>>exits in under-commits and increasing ple_window may be sometimes
> >>>counter productive as it affects other busy-wait constructs such as
> >>>flush_tlb AFAIK.
> >>>So if we could have had a dynamically changing SPIN_THRESHOLD too, that
> >>>would be nice.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Gleb, Andrew,
> >>I tested with the global ple window change (similar to what I posted
> >>here https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/11/14 ),
> >This does not look global. It changes PLE per vcpu.
> 
> Okay. Got it. I was thinking it would change the global value. But IIRC
>  It is changing global sysfs value and per vcpu ple_window.
> Sorry. I missed this part yesterday.
> 
Yes, it changes sysfs value but this does not affect already created
vcpus.

> >
> >>But did not see good result. May be it is good to go with per VM
> >>ple_window.
> >>
> >>Gleb,
> >>Can you elaborate little more on what you have in mind regarding per
> >>VM ple_window. (maintaining part of it as a per vm variable is clear
> >>to
> >>  me), but is it that we have to load that every time of guest entry?
> >>
> >Only when it changes, shouldn't be to often no?
> 
> Ok. Thinking how to do. read the register and writeback if there need
> to be a change during guest entry?
> 
Why not do it like in the patch you've linked? When value changes write it
to VMCS of the current vcpu.

--
			Gleb.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, ouyang@cs.pitt.edu,
	habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jeremy@goop.org, x86@kernel.org,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, hpa@zytor.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, andi@firstfloor.org,
	attilio.rao@citrix.com, gregkh@suse.de, agraf@suse.de,
	chegu_vinod@hp.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	avi.kivity@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:48:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130711094833.GC8575@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DE771F.7070805@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 02:43:03PM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 07/10/2013 04:03 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> [...] trimmed
> 
> >>>Yes. you are right. dynamic ple window was an attempt to solve it.
> >>>
> >>>Probelm is, reducing the SPIN_THRESHOLD is resulting in excess halt
> >>>exits in under-commits and increasing ple_window may be sometimes
> >>>counter productive as it affects other busy-wait constructs such as
> >>>flush_tlb AFAIK.
> >>>So if we could have had a dynamically changing SPIN_THRESHOLD too, that
> >>>would be nice.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Gleb, Andrew,
> >>I tested with the global ple window change (similar to what I posted
> >>here https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/11/14 ),
> >This does not look global. It changes PLE per vcpu.
> 
> Okay. Got it. I was thinking it would change the global value. But IIRC
>  It is changing global sysfs value and per vcpu ple_window.
> Sorry. I missed this part yesterday.
> 
Yes, it changes sysfs value but this does not affect already created
vcpus.

> >
> >>But did not see good result. May be it is good to go with per VM
> >>ple_window.
> >>
> >>Gleb,
> >>Can you elaborate little more on what you have in mind regarding per
> >>VM ple_window. (maintaining part of it as a per vm variable is clear
> >>to
> >>  me), but is it that we have to load that every time of guest entry?
> >>
> >Only when it changes, shouldn't be to often no?
> 
> Ok. Thinking how to do. read the register and writeback if there need
> to be a change during guest entry?
> 
Why not do it like in the patch you've linked? When value changes write it
to VMCS of the current vcpu.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-11  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-01 19:21 [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH RFC V9 1/19] x86/spinlock: Replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 20:32   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:32     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-02  6:54     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-02  6:54       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 20:32   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 2/19] x86/ticketlock: Don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 15:28     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 3/19] x86/ticketlock: Collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 15:28     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 4/19] xen: Defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 5/19] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:03   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 16:03     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:21     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04  7:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 6/19] xen/pvticketlocks: Add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 7/19] x86/pvticketlock: Use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 8/19] x86/pvticketlock: When paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:53   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 15:53     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 9/19] Split out rate limiting from jump_label.h Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:56   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 15:56     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:15     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04  7:15       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 10/19] x86/ticketlock: Add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 11/19] xen/pvticketlock: Allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 12/19] xen: Enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 15:57     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:16     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04  7:16       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04 14:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 14:44         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 15:00         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04 15:00         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 13/19] kvm hypervisor : Add a hypercall to KVM hypervisor to support pv-ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 14/19] kvm : Fold pv_unhalt flag into GET_MP_STATE ioctl to aid migration Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 15/19] kvm guest : Add configuration support to enable debug information for KVM Guests Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 16/19] kvm : Paravirtual ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:00   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 16:00     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:19     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04  7:19     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 17/19] kvm hypervisor : Simplify kvm_for_each_vcpu with kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 18/19] Documentation/kvm : Add documentation on Hypercalls and features used for PV spinlock Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:04   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 16:04     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:22     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04  7:22       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 19/19] kvm hypervisor: Add directed yield in vcpu block path Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:05   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 16:05     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:28     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04  7:28       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-02  8:07 ` [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02  8:07   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 16:20   ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-02 16:20   ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-02 16:20     ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-03  1:40     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03  1:40       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03  6:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07  6:15         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07  6:15           ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07 13:29           ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-07 13:29           ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-07 23:41           ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-07 23:41           ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-07 23:41             ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-03  6:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-25 14:50 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-25 14:50 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-26  8:45   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26  8:45     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 11:37     ` Andrew Jones
2013-06-26 11:37       ` Andrew Jones
2013-06-26 12:52       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 12:52         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 13:40         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 13:40           ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:39           ` Chegu Vinod
2013-06-26 15:37             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 15:37               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 16:11           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 16:11             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 17:54             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-09  9:11               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-09  9:11                 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 10:33                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 10:33                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 10:40                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-10 10:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-10 10:47                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 10:47                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:28                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:28                         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:29                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:29                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:40                           ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 15:03                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 15:03                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 15:16                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 15:16                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11  0:12                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-11  0:12                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 11:24                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:24                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:41                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:41                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:50                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:50                         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11  9:13                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11  9:13                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11  9:48                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-07-11  9:48                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:10                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:10                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:11                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:53                           ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:53                             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:56                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:56                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 11:14                               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 11:14                               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 17:54             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:13         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-26 14:13           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-26 15:56         ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-26 15:56           ` Andrew Theurer
2013-07-01  9:30           ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-01  9:30             ` Raghavendra K T
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-01 19:21 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01  8:21 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01  8:21 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01  8:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` Raghavendra KT
2013-06-01 19:21 ` Raghavendra KT
2013-06-01 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-01 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-01 20:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:28     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:46     ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-01 20:46       ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-04 10:58   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04 10:58   ` Raghavendra K T

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