From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: quintela@redhat.com, KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: KVM call minutes for 2013-08-06
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:01:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130806170101.GE15901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52011A98.6090104@redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 05:47:36PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 08/06/2013 05:15 PM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >* pvpanic
> >- was added by default in 1.5, this might have been too rash:
> > - might change guest behaviour if guest is set to reboot on panic
>
> Interesting, but it looks like either a feature or a driver bug.
>
More like the device bug. The behaviour should be to notify management
without stopping the VM. Management (if present and configured for do
so) stops the VM.
> > - might cause slightly annoying warnings/queries from device
> > manager
> > - generally somewhat inelegant/non-symmetrical, libvirt
> > developers prefer "no magic devices"
> >- conclusions:
> > - for -M 1.6, will change QEMU don't add by default, teach libvirt to add
> > with -device pvpanic
>
> This just moves the problem to a layer where it's harder to fix it.
> It will just appear to work because no one will use pvpanic, which
> is not a solution.
>
> Paolo
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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for 2013-08-06
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:01:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130806170101.GE15901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52011A98.6090104@redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 05:47:36PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 08/06/2013 05:15 PM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >* pvpanic
> >- was added by default in 1.5, this might have been too rash:
> > - might change guest behaviour if guest is set to reboot on panic
>
> Interesting, but it looks like either a feature or a driver bug.
>
More like the device bug. The behaviour should be to notify management
without stopping the VM. Management (if present and configured for do
so) stops the VM.
> > - might cause slightly annoying warnings/queries from device
> > manager
> > - generally somewhat inelegant/non-symmetrical, libvirt
> > developers prefer "no magic devices"
> >- conclusions:
> > - for -M 1.6, will change QEMU don't add by default, teach libvirt to add
> > with -device pvpanic
>
> This just moves the problem to a layer where it's harder to fix it.
> It will just appear to work because no one will use pvpanic, which
> is not a solution.
>
> Paolo
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-06 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-06 15:15 KVM call minutes for 2013-08-06 Juan Quintela
2013-08-06 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2013-08-06 15:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-06 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-06 17:01 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-08-06 17:01 ` Gleb Natapov
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