From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
Cc: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>,
Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, robert.moore@intel.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier.
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:21:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130822202158.GD3490@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1377202292.10300.693.camel@misato.fc.hp.com>
Hello,
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 02:11:32PM -0600, Toshi Kani wrote:
> It's too late for the kernel image itself, but it prevents allocating
> kernel memory from movable ranges after that. I'd say it solves a half
> of the issue this time.
That works if such half solution eventually leads to the full
solution. This is just a distraction. You are already too late in
the boot sequence. It doesn't even qualify as a half solution. It's
like obsessing about a speck on your shirt without your trousers on.
If you want to solve this, do that from a place where it actually is
solvable.
> > > Also, how do you support local page tables without pursing SRAT early?
> >
> > Does it even matter with huge mappings? It's gonna be contained in a
> > single page anyway, right?
>
> Are the huge mappings always used? We cannot force user programs to use
> huge pages, can we?
Everything is a trade-off. Should we do all this just to support the
off chance someone tries to use memory hotplug on a machine which
doesn't support huge mapping when virtually all CPUs on market
supports it?
> As for the maintainability, I am far more concerned with your suggestion
> of having a separate page table init code when SRAT is used. This kind
> of divergence is a recipe of breakage.
I don't buy that. The only thing which needs to change is the
directionality of allocation and we probably don't even need to do
that if huge mapping is in use.
Thanks.
--
tejun
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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
Cc: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>,
Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, robert.moore@intel.com,
lv.zheng@intel.com, rjw@sisk.pl, lenb@kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, hpa@zytor.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, trenn@suse.de, yinghai@kernel.org,
jiang.liu@huawei.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com,
mgorman@suse.de, minchan@kernel.org, mina86@mina86.com,
gong.chen@linux.intel.com, vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com,
lwoodman@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com, jweiner@redhat.com,
prarit@redhat.com, zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com,
yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier.
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:21:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130822202158.GD3490@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1377202292.10300.693.camel@misato.fc.hp.com>
Hello,
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 02:11:32PM -0600, Toshi Kani wrote:
> It's too late for the kernel image itself, but it prevents allocating
> kernel memory from movable ranges after that. I'd say it solves a half
> of the issue this time.
That works if such half solution eventually leads to the full
solution. This is just a distraction. You are already too late in
the boot sequence. It doesn't even qualify as a half solution. It's
like obsessing about a speck on your shirt without your trousers on.
If you want to solve this, do that from a place where it actually is
solvable.
> > > Also, how do you support local page tables without pursing SRAT early?
> >
> > Does it even matter with huge mappings? It's gonna be contained in a
> > single page anyway, right?
>
> Are the huge mappings always used? We cannot force user programs to use
> huge pages, can we?
Everything is a trade-off. Should we do all this just to support the
off chance someone tries to use memory hotplug on a machine which
doesn't support huge mapping when virtually all CPUs on market
supports it?
> As for the maintainability, I am far more concerned with your suggestion
> of having a separate page table init code when SRAT is used. This kind
> of divergence is a recipe of breakage.
I don't buy that. The only thing which needs to change is the
directionality of allocation and we probably don't even need to do
that if huge mapping is in use.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-22 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-21 10:15 [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86: Make get_ramdisk_{image|size}() global Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86, microcode: Use get_ramdisk_{image|size}() in microcode handling Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/8] x86, acpi: Move table_sigs[] to stack Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86, acpi, brk: Extend BRK 256KB to store acpi override tables Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 5/8] x86, brk: Make extend_brk() available with va/pa Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 12:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 12:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 12:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 14:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 14:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 15:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 15:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 6/8] x86, acpi: Make acpi_initrd_override() available with va or pa Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 7/8] x86, acpi, brk: Make early_alloc_acpi_override_tables_buf() available with va/pa Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 8/8] x86, acpi: Do acpi_initrd_override() earlier in head_32.S/head64.c Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:42 ` [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:42 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 13:06 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 13:06 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 15:00 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-21 15:00 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-21 15:36 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 15:36 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 19:31 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 19:31 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 19:54 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 19:54 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 20:29 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 20:29 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 20:40 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 20:40 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 22:36 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 22:36 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 3:32 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 3:32 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 15:52 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 15:52 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 18:31 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 18:31 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 19:39 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-22 19:39 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-22 19:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 19:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:11 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 20:11 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 20:21 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2013-08-22 20:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 21:06 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 21:06 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 21:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 21:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 22:17 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 22:17 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 13:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 13:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 13:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 13:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:19 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:19 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:57 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:57 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 16:14 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 16:14 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 16:24 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 16:24 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 17:13 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 17:13 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 17:29 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 17:29 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 16:54 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 16:54 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 18:18 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 18:18 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 18:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 20:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 20:30 ` Russ Anderson
2013-08-23 20:48 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 21:50 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:52 ` Moore, Robert
2013-08-23 22:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 22:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 22:40 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 23:04 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-24 2:41 ` Russ Anderson
2013-08-23 20:33 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 20:33 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 21:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 22:27 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 22:27 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 18:29 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 18:29 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 21:37 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:37 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:52 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 21:52 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 23:56 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 23:56 ` chen tang
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