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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alexander Fyodorov <halcy@yandex.ru>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:21:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130828012128.GT3871@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130827135309.GF10002@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 03:53:10PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:14:36AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> > I just had this conversation with Paul McKenney. Should there be a
> > smp_mb_after_spin_unlock()?
> 
> Depends on the benefits I suppose :-) Oleg and Linus did recently add
> smp_mb__before_spinlock();
> 
> > Although we blew it off as adding too many extensions to smp_mb(). But
> > it may be better than reimplementing something as complex as a lock.
> 
> Locks should be as light weight as possible and never implement anything
> heavier than the ACQUISITION / RELEASE barriers if at all possible. We
> should certainly not re-implement spinlocks just to get full barriers
> out of them, that's crazy.

An unlock followed by a lock needs to act like a full barrier, but there
is no requirement that a lock or unlock taken separately act like a
full barrier.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-28  2:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <15321377012704@web8h.yandex.ru>
2013-08-21  3:01 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation Waiman Long
2013-08-21 15:51   ` Alexander Fyodorov
2013-08-22  1:04     ` Waiman Long
2013-08-22 13:28       ` Alexander Fyodorov
2013-08-26 20:14         ` Waiman Long
2013-08-27 12:09           ` Alexander Fyodorov
     [not found]             ` <20130827091436.3d5971a0@gandalf.local.home>
2013-08-27 13:53               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-28  1:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-08-28  8:19                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-28 12:59                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-28 13:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-28 13:15                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-28 13:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-29 15:24             ` Waiman Long
2013-08-29 17:03               ` Alexander Fyodorov
2013-08-30  3:16                 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30  8:15                   ` Alexander Fyodorov
2013-08-13 18:41 [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock Waiman Long
2013-08-13 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation Waiman Long

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