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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>,
	Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [BUG] completely bonkers use of set_need_resched + VM_FAULT_NOPAGE
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:22:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130912162210.GE31370@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFTYB-E5ksVNEBqGJusJ5TKJv5X4hiPv1mno9tJKuUAdA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 05:58:49PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >> The one in ttm is just bonghits to shut up lockdep: ttm can recurse
> >> into it's own pagefault handler and then deadlock, the trylock just
> >> keeps lockdep quiet. We've had that bug arise in drm/i915 due to some
> >> fun userspace did and now have testcases for them. The right solution
> >> to fix this is to use copy_to|from_user_atomic in ttm everywhere it
> >> holds locks and have slowpaths which drops locks, copies stuff into a
> >> temp allocation and then continues. At least that's how we've fixed
> >> all those inversions in i915-gem. I'm not volunteering to fix this ;-)
> >
> > Yikes.. so how common is it? If I simply rip the set_need_resched() out
> > it will 'spin' on the fault a little longer until a 'natural' preemption
> > point -- if such a thing is every going to happen.
> 
> It's a case of "our userspace doesn't do this", so as long as you're
> not evil and frob the drm device nodes of ttm drivers directly the
> deadlock will never happen. No idea how much contention actually
> happens on e.g. shared buffer objects - in i915 we have just one lock
> and so suffer quite a bit more from contention. So no idea how much
> removing the yield would hurt.

If 'sane' userspace is never supposed to do this, then only insane
userspace is going to hurt from this and that's a GOOD (tm) thing,
right? ;-)

And it won't actually deadlock if you don't use FIFO, for the regular
scheduler class it'll just spin a little longer before getting preempted
so no real worries there.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-12 15:06 [BUG] completely bonkers use of set_need_resched + VM_FAULT_NOPAGE Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-12 15:11 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-12 15:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-12 15:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-12 15:36 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-12 15:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-12 15:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-12 15:58     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-12 16:22       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-09-12 16:35         ` Chris Wilson
2013-09-12 16:35           ` Chris Wilson
2013-09-12 20:30           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-12 20:37             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-12 19:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-12 19:58           ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-12 20:04             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-12 20:20               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-12 20:23                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-12 20:39                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-12 20:48                     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-12 20:48                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-12 16:33       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-12 16:33         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-12 15:45   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-12 15:45     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-12 16:44     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-12 19:48       ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-12 21:50       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-13  5:33         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  8:26           ` Daniel Vetter
2013-10-08 14:14           ` [RFC PATCH] drm/radeon: fixup locking inversion between mmap_sem and reservations Maarten Lankhorst
2013-10-08 14:33             ` Jerome Glisse
2013-10-08 14:45               ` Christian König
2013-10-08 14:55                 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-10-08 16:29                   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-10-08 16:47                     ` Jerome Glisse
2013-10-08 16:58                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-10-09 12:36                         ` [RFC PATCH v2] drm/radeon: fixup locking inversion between, " Maarten Lankhorst
2013-10-09 10:58                       ` [RFC PATCH] drm/radeon: fixup locking inversion between " Maarten Lankhorst
2013-10-08 14:45               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-10-08 14:57                 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-09-13  6:44         ` [BUG] completely bonkers use of set_need_resched + VM_FAULT_NOPAGE Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  6:44           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  7:16           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-13  7:46             ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  7:51               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-13  8:23                 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  8:23                   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  8:32                   ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-13  8:39                     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  8:58                   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-13  9:21                     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-13  8:29               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-13  8:41                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-13  9:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-23 15:33                     ` [RFC PATCH] drm/nouveau: fix nested locking in mmap handler Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-24  7:22                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-24  7:34                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-24  8:20                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-24  9:03                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-24  9:36                             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-09-24 10:11                               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-24 10:33                                 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-24 11:32                                   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-24 17:04                                     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2013-09-24  9:43                             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-24  9:43                               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-09-24 17:53                               ` Thomas Hellstrom

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