From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
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Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
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"Paul E.McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>, Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/9] rwsem performance optimizations
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:55:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131016065526.GB22509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1381882156.11046.178.camel@schen9-DESK>
* Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 09:54 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The throughput of pure mmap with mutex is below vs pure mmap is below:
> > >
> > > % change in performance of the mmap with pthread-mutex vs pure mmap
> > > #threads vanilla all rwsem without optspin
> > > patches
> > > 1 3.0% -1.0% -1.7%
> > > 5 7.2% -26.8% 5.5%
> > > 10 5.2% -10.6% 22.1%
> > > 20 6.8% 16.4% 12.5%
> > > 40 -0.2% 32.7% 0.0%
> > >
> > > So with mutex, the vanilla kernel and the one without optspin both run
> > > faster. This is consistent with what Peter reported. With optspin, the
> > > picture is more mixed, with lower throughput at low to moderate number
> > > of threads and higher throughput with high number of threads.
> >
> > So, going back to your orignal table:
> >
> > > % change in performance of the mmap with pthread-mutex vs pure mmap
> > > #threads vanilla all without optspin
> > > 1 3.0% -1.0% -1.7%
> > > 5 7.2% -26.8% 5.5%
> > > 10 5.2% -10.6% 22.1%
> > > 20 6.8% 16.4% 12.5%
> > > 40 -0.2% 32.7% 0.0%
> > >
> > > In general, vanilla and no-optspin case perform better with
> > > pthread-mutex. For the case with optspin, mmap with pthread-mutex is
> > > worse at low to moderate contention and better at high contention.
> >
> > it appears that 'without optspin' appears to be a pretty good choice - if
> > it wasn't for that '1 thread' number, which, if I correctly assume is the
> > uncontended case, is one of the most common usecases ...
> >
> > How can the single-threaded case get slower? None of the patches should
> > really cause noticeable overhead in the non-contended case. That looks
> > weird.
> >
> > It would also be nice to see the 2, 3, 4 thread numbers - those are the
> > most common contention scenarios in practice - where do we see the first
> > improvement in performance?
> >
> > Also, it would be nice to include a noise/sttdev figure, it's really hard
> > to tell whether -1.7% is statistically significant.
>
> Ingo,
>
> I think that the optimistic spin changes to rwsem should enhance
> performance to real workloads after all.
>
> In my previous tests, I was doing mmap followed immediately by
> munmap without doing anything to the memory. No real workload
> will behave that way and it is not the scenario that we
> should optimize for. A much better approximation of
> real usages will be doing mmap, then touching
> the memories being mmaped, followed by munmap.
That's why I asked for a working testcase to be posted ;-) Not just
pseudocode - send the real .c thing please.
> This changes the dynamics of the rwsem as we are now dominated by read
> acquisitions of mmap sem due to the page faults, instead of having only
> write acquisitions from mmap. [...]
Absolutely, the page fault read case is the #1 optimization target of
rwsems.
> [...] In this case, any delay in write acquisitions will be costly as we
> will be blocking a lot of readers. This is where optimistic spinning on
> write acquisitions of mmap sem can provide a very significant boost to
> the throughput.
>
> I change the test case to the following with writes to
> the mmaped memory:
>
> #define MEMSIZE (1 * 1024 * 1024)
>
> char *testcase_description = "Anonymous memory mmap/munmap of 1MB";
>
> void testcase(unsigned long long *iterations)
> {
> int i;
>
> while (1) {
> char *c = mmap(NULL, MEMSIZE, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0);
> assert(c != MAP_FAILED);
> for (i=0; i<MEMSIZE; i+=8) {
> c[i] = 0xa;
> }
> munmap(c, MEMSIZE);
>
> (*iterations)++;
> }
> }
It would be _really_ nice to stick this into tools/perf/bench/ as:
perf bench mem pagefaults
or so, with a number of parallelism and workload patterns. See
tools/perf/bench/numa.c for a couple of workload generators - although
those are not page fault intense.
So that future generations can run all these tests too and such.
> I compare the throughput where I have the complete rwsem patchset
> against vanilla and the case where I take out the optimistic spin patch.
> I have increased the run time by 10x from my pervious experiments and do
> 10 runs for each case. The standard deviation is ~1.5% so any changes
> under 1.5% is statistically significant.
>
> % change in throughput vs the vanilla kernel.
> Threads all No-optspin
> 1 +0.4% -0.1%
> 2 +2.0% +0.2%
> 3 +1.1% +1.5%
> 4 -0.5% -1.4%
> 5 -0.1% -0.1%
> 10 +2.2% -1.2%
> 20 +237.3% -2.3%
> 40 +548.1% +0.3%
The tail is impressive. The early parts are important as well, but it's
really hard to tell the significance of the early portion without having
an sttdev column.
( "perf stat --repeat N" will give you sttdev output, in handy percentage
form. )
> Now when I test the case where we acquire mutex in the
> user space before mmap, I got the following data versus
> vanilla kernel. There's little contention on mmap sem
> acquisition in this case.
>
> n all No-optspin
> 1 +0.8% -1.2%
> 2 +1.0% -0.5%
> 3 +1.8% +0.2%
> 4 +1.5% -0.4%
> 5 +1.1% +0.4%
> 10 +1.5% -0.3%
> 20 +1.4% -0.2%
> 40 +1.3% +0.4%
>
> Thanks.
A bit hard to see as there's no comparison _between_ the pthread_mutex and
plain-parallel versions. No contention isn't a great result if performance
suffers because it's all serialized.
Thanks,
Ingo
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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
Matthew R Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
"Paul E.McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>, Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/9] rwsem performance optimizations
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:55:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131016065526.GB22509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1381882156.11046.178.camel@schen9-DESK>
* Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 09:54 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The throughput of pure mmap with mutex is below vs pure mmap is below:
> > >
> > > % change in performance of the mmap with pthread-mutex vs pure mmap
> > > #threads vanilla all rwsem without optspin
> > > patches
> > > 1 3.0% -1.0% -1.7%
> > > 5 7.2% -26.8% 5.5%
> > > 10 5.2% -10.6% 22.1%
> > > 20 6.8% 16.4% 12.5%
> > > 40 -0.2% 32.7% 0.0%
> > >
> > > So with mutex, the vanilla kernel and the one without optspin both run
> > > faster. This is consistent with what Peter reported. With optspin, the
> > > picture is more mixed, with lower throughput at low to moderate number
> > > of threads and higher throughput with high number of threads.
> >
> > So, going back to your orignal table:
> >
> > > % change in performance of the mmap with pthread-mutex vs pure mmap
> > > #threads vanilla all without optspin
> > > 1 3.0% -1.0% -1.7%
> > > 5 7.2% -26.8% 5.5%
> > > 10 5.2% -10.6% 22.1%
> > > 20 6.8% 16.4% 12.5%
> > > 40 -0.2% 32.7% 0.0%
> > >
> > > In general, vanilla and no-optspin case perform better with
> > > pthread-mutex. For the case with optspin, mmap with pthread-mutex is
> > > worse at low to moderate contention and better at high contention.
> >
> > it appears that 'without optspin' appears to be a pretty good choice - if
> > it wasn't for that '1 thread' number, which, if I correctly assume is the
> > uncontended case, is one of the most common usecases ...
> >
> > How can the single-threaded case get slower? None of the patches should
> > really cause noticeable overhead in the non-contended case. That looks
> > weird.
> >
> > It would also be nice to see the 2, 3, 4 thread numbers - those are the
> > most common contention scenarios in practice - where do we see the first
> > improvement in performance?
> >
> > Also, it would be nice to include a noise/sttdev figure, it's really hard
> > to tell whether -1.7% is statistically significant.
>
> Ingo,
>
> I think that the optimistic spin changes to rwsem should enhance
> performance to real workloads after all.
>
> In my previous tests, I was doing mmap followed immediately by
> munmap without doing anything to the memory. No real workload
> will behave that way and it is not the scenario that we
> should optimize for. A much better approximation of
> real usages will be doing mmap, then touching
> the memories being mmaped, followed by munmap.
That's why I asked for a working testcase to be posted ;-) Not just
pseudocode - send the real .c thing please.
> This changes the dynamics of the rwsem as we are now dominated by read
> acquisitions of mmap sem due to the page faults, instead of having only
> write acquisitions from mmap. [...]
Absolutely, the page fault read case is the #1 optimization target of
rwsems.
> [...] In this case, any delay in write acquisitions will be costly as we
> will be blocking a lot of readers. This is where optimistic spinning on
> write acquisitions of mmap sem can provide a very significant boost to
> the throughput.
>
> I change the test case to the following with writes to
> the mmaped memory:
>
> #define MEMSIZE (1 * 1024 * 1024)
>
> char *testcase_description = "Anonymous memory mmap/munmap of 1MB";
>
> void testcase(unsigned long long *iterations)
> {
> int i;
>
> while (1) {
> char *c = mmap(NULL, MEMSIZE, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0);
> assert(c != MAP_FAILED);
> for (i=0; i<MEMSIZE; i+=8) {
> c[i] = 0xa;
> }
> munmap(c, MEMSIZE);
>
> (*iterations)++;
> }
> }
It would be _really_ nice to stick this into tools/perf/bench/ as:
perf bench mem pagefaults
or so, with a number of parallelism and workload patterns. See
tools/perf/bench/numa.c for a couple of workload generators - although
those are not page fault intense.
So that future generations can run all these tests too and such.
> I compare the throughput where I have the complete rwsem patchset
> against vanilla and the case where I take out the optimistic spin patch.
> I have increased the run time by 10x from my pervious experiments and do
> 10 runs for each case. The standard deviation is ~1.5% so any changes
> under 1.5% is statistically significant.
>
> % change in throughput vs the vanilla kernel.
> Threads all No-optspin
> 1 +0.4% -0.1%
> 2 +2.0% +0.2%
> 3 +1.1% +1.5%
> 4 -0.5% -1.4%
> 5 -0.1% -0.1%
> 10 +2.2% -1.2%
> 20 +237.3% -2.3%
> 40 +548.1% +0.3%
The tail is impressive. The early parts are important as well, but it's
really hard to tell the significance of the early portion without having
an sttdev column.
( "perf stat --repeat N" will give you sttdev output, in handy percentage
form. )
> Now when I test the case where we acquire mutex in the
> user space before mmap, I got the following data versus
> vanilla kernel. There's little contention on mmap sem
> acquisition in this case.
>
> n all No-optspin
> 1 +0.8% -1.2%
> 2 +1.0% -0.5%
> 3 +1.8% +0.2%
> 4 +1.5% -0.4%
> 5 +1.1% +0.4%
> 10 +1.5% -0.3%
> 20 +1.4% -0.2%
> 40 +1.3% +0.4%
>
> Thanks.
A bit hard to see as there's no comparison _between_ the pthread_mutex and
plain-parallel versions. No contention isn't a great result if performance
suffers because it's all serialized.
Thanks,
Ingo
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2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 0/9] rwsem performance optimizations Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-03 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-03 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-07 22:57 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-07 22:57 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-09 6:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-09 6:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-09 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-09 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-10 3:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-10 3:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-10 5:03 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-10 5:03 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-09 16:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-09 16:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-10 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-10 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-16 0:09 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-16 0:09 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-16 6:55 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-16 6:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-16 18:28 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-16 18:28 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-04 22:36 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-04 22:36 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-16 21:55 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-16 21:55 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-18 6:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-18 6:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] rwsem: check the lock before cpmxchg in down_write_trylock Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] rwsem: remove 'out' label in do_wake Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] rwsem: remove try_reader_grant label do_wake Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] rwsem/wake: check lock before do atomic update Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] MCS Lock: Restructure the MCS lock defines and locking code into its own file Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-08 19:51 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-10-08 19:51 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-10-08 20:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-08 20:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-08 21:31 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-10-08 21:31 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] MCS Lock: optimizations and extra comments Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] rwsem: do optimistic spinning for writer lock acquisition Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] rwsem: reduce spinlock contention in wakeup code path Tim Chen
2013-10-02 22:38 ` Tim Chen
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