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From: thierry.reding@gmail.com (Thierry Reding)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [RFC] of: Allow for experimental device tree bindings
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131023185603.GB7863@ulmo.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382547916.8522.42.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 06:05:16PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 09:55 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > 
> > So to avoid tainting the kernel and clogging the kernel log I'll have
> > to remove all the "!" from the dt sources, or not use any "!" in the
> > dt bindings in the first place. Given that, not sure if anyone will
> > really use this mechanism. And CONFIG_OF_EXPERIMENTAL/CONFIG_UNSTABLE_DT
> > might have the same ultimate fate as CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL.
> 
> It's not as if it's hard for you to patch out the check if you really
> want to do that. This is about making it clear to people what they
> should expect if they use staging code/bindings. 

I agree. The kernel is open source, so people are free to patch it in
any way they want. The best we can do is to come up with a good solution
in an upstream kernel. But there's no way we can control things beyond
that, and we don't have to.

Thierry
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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	ksummit-2013-discuss-cunTk1MwBs98uUxBSJOaYoYkZiVZrdSR2LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [RFC] of: Allow for experimental device tree bindings
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131023185603.GB7863@ulmo.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382547916.8522.42.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 06:05:16PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 09:55 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > 
> > So to avoid tainting the kernel and clogging the kernel log I'll have
> > to remove all the "!" from the dt sources, or not use any "!" in the
> > dt bindings in the first place. Given that, not sure if anyone will
> > really use this mechanism. And CONFIG_OF_EXPERIMENTAL/CONFIG_UNSTABLE_DT
> > might have the same ultimate fate as CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL.
> 
> It's not as if it's hard for you to patch out the check if you really
> want to do that. This is about making it clear to people what they
> should expect if they use staging code/bindings. 

I agree. The kernel is open source, so people are free to patch it in
any way they want. The best we can do is to come up with a good solution
in an upstream kernel. But there's no way we can control things beyond
that, and we don't have to.

Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-23 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-23 15:06 [RFC] of: Allow for experimental device tree bindings Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 15:06 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 16:05 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2013-10-23 16:05   ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-23 16:55   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 16:55     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 17:05     ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-23 17:05       ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-23 18:56       ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2013-10-23 18:56         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 18:51   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 18:51     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 22:26     ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-24 22:26       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-25  8:22       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-25  8:22         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-25  8:45         ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-25  8:45           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-23 16:33 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-23 16:33   ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-23 17:20   ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Wolfram Sang
2013-10-23 17:20     ` Wolfram Sang
2013-10-23 18:59     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 18:59       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 19:34       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 19:34         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 19:58         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 19:58           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 21:08           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 21:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-24  8:04             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24  8:04               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 17:32               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-24 17:32                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 21:13           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-23 21:13             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-23 19:40       ` Wolfram Sang
2013-10-23 19:40         ` Wolfram Sang
2013-10-23 20:05         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 20:05           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24  8:34     ` Grant Likely
2013-10-24  8:34       ` Grant Likely
2013-10-24  8:50       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24  8:50         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 20:26       ` Matt Sealey
2013-10-24 20:26         ` Matt Sealey
2013-10-24 22:29       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-24 22:29         ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-24 18:39 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-10-24 18:39   ` jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w

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