* [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
@ 2013-10-25 9:33 Mrinmayee Hingolikar
2013-10-25 10:34 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mrinmayee Hingolikar @ 2013-10-25 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: meta-arago
This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
base, good, bad and ugly.
The development trees for all of these components are mainitained at
git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop releases.
Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
.../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend | 25 ++++++++++++++++++++
.../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend | 22 +++++++++++++++++
.../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend | 20 ++++++++++++++++
.../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb | 23 ++++++++++++++++++
.../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend | 16 +++++++++++++
5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend
create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend
create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend
create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb
create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend
--
1.7.9.5
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-10-25 9:33 [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes Mrinmayee Hingolikar
@ 2013-10-25 10:34 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-10-25 15:26 ` Cooper Jr., Franklin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2013-10-25 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mrinmayee Hingolikar; +Cc: meta-arago
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee Hingolikar wrote:
> This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> base, good, bad and ugly.
>
> The development trees for all of these components are mainitained at
> git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop releases.
Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
>
> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend | 25 ++++++++++++++++++++
> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend | 22 +++++++++++++++++
> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend | 20 ++++++++++++++++
> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb | 23 ++++++++++++++++++
> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend | 16 +++++++++++++
> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend
> create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend
> create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend
> create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb
> create mode 100644 meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend
>
> --
> 1.7.9.5
>
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-10-25 10:34 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2013-10-25 15:26 ` Cooper Jr., Franklin
2013-10-25 16:08 ` Maupin, Chase
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Cooper Jr., Franklin @ 2013-10-25 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmytriyenko, Denys, Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; +Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
All of your appends are currently blocking all of the gstreamer plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way to only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all other machines ignore the bbappend.
Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer sources it probably would be better to break out the patches from your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap machine.
Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called omap-<base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base gstreamer recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a look at the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
Or
Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate this isn't the standard gstreamer.
Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and
> plugins recipes
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee Hingolikar wrote:
> > This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> > base, good, bad and ugly.
> >
> > The development trees for all of these components are mainitained at
> > git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop releases.
>
> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
>
>
> > Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> > multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> > multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> > multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> > multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> > multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> >
> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend | 25
> ++++++++++++++++++++
> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend | 22
> +++++++++++++++++
> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend | 20
> ++++++++++++++++
> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb | 23 ++++++++++++++++++
> > .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend | 16 +++++++++++++
> > 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> > create mode 100644
> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23
> > .bbappend create mode 100644
> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.3
> > 6.bbappend create mode 100644
> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.3
> > 1.bbappend create mode 100644
> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.1
> > 8.bb create mode 100644
> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> > end
> >
> > --
> > 1.7.9.5
> >
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> > meta-arago mailing list
> > meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-10-25 15:26 ` Cooper Jr., Franklin
@ 2013-10-25 16:08 ` Maupin, Chase
2013-10-30 22:57 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Maupin, Chase @ 2013-10-25 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Cooper Jr., Franklin, Dmytriyenko, Denys, Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>-----Original Message-----
>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>framework and plugins recipes
>
>All of your appends are currently blocking all of the gstreamer
>plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way to
>only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all other
>machines ignore the bbappend.
>
>Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
>sources it probably would be better to break out the patches from
>your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap machine.
This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to particular gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But number of patches is something that would weigh in here.
>
>Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called omap-
><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base gstreamer
>recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a look at
>the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
>http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
>arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
>
>Or
>Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate this
>isn't the standard gstreamer.
If not patches one of the above seems right.
>
>Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
>> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>framework and
>> plugins recipes
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee Hingolikar
>wrote:
>> > This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
>> > base, good, bad and ugly.
>> >
>> > The development trees for all of these components are
>mainitained at
>> > git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
>releases.
>>
>> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
>>
>>
>> > Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
>> > multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
>> > multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
>> > multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
>> > multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
>> > multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
>> >
>> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend | 25
>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend | 22
>> +++++++++++++++++
>> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend | 20
>> ++++++++++++++++
>> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb | 23
>++++++++++++++++++
>> > .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend | 16
>+++++++++++++
>> > 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
>> > create mode 100644
>> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
>bad_0.10.23
>> > .bbappend create mode 100644
>> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
>base_0.10.3
>> > 6.bbappend create mode 100644
>> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
>good_0.10.3
>> > 1.bbappend create mode 100644
>> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
>ugly_0.10.1
>> > 8.bb create mode 100644
>> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-
>multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
>> > end
>> >
>> > --
>> > 1.7.9.5
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-10-25 16:08 ` Maupin, Chase
@ 2013-10-30 22:57 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-11-11 6:15 ` Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2013-10-30 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maupin, Chase; +Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
Mrinmayee,
Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the amount and size of
the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And you still have not
answered that.
The reason we are asking this simple question is because the changes you are
making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be accepted as is. You
would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15 instead of COMPATIBLE_MACHINE
and depending on the amount and size of the patches, you either simply apply
them just for your machine, or change the SRC_URI completely for your machine.
Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in the discussion and
not just disappear. Thank you.
--
Denys
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> >bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
> >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
> >To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >framework and plugins recipes
> >
> >All of your appends are currently blocking all of the gstreamer
> >plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way to
> >only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all other
> >machines ignore the bbappend.
> >
> >Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
> >sources it probably would be better to break out the patches from
> >your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap machine.
>
> This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to particular
> gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But number of patches
> is something that would weigh in here.
>
> >
> >Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called omap-
> ><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base gstreamer
> >recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a look at
> >the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
> >http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
> >arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
> >
> >Or
> >Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate this
> >isn't the standard gstreamer.
>
> If not patches one of the above seems right.
>
> >
> >Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> >> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> >> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >framework and
> >> plugins recipes
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee Hingolikar
> >wrote:
> >> > This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> >> > base, good, bad and ugly.
> >> >
> >> > The development trees for all of these components are
> >mainitained at
> >> > git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
> >releases.
> >>
> >> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> >> > multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> >> > multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> >> > multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> >> > multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> >> > multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> >> >
> >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend | 25
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++
> >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend | 22
> >> +++++++++++++++++
> >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend | 20
> >> ++++++++++++++++
> >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb | 23
> >++++++++++++++++++
> >> > .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend | 16
> >+++++++++++++
> >> > 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> >> > create mode 100644
> >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> >bad_0.10.23
> >> > .bbappend create mode 100644
> >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> >base_0.10.3
> >> > 6.bbappend create mode 100644
> >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> >good_0.10.3
> >> > 1.bbappend create mode 100644
> >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> >ugly_0.10.1
> >> > 8.bb create mode 100644
> >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-
> >multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> >> > end
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > 1.7.9.5
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > meta-arago mailing list
> >> > meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> > http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> >_______________________________________________
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> >meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-10-30 22:57 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2013-11-11 6:15 ` Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
2013-11-11 14:35 ` Maupin, Chase
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee @ 2013-11-11 6:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmytriyenko, Denys, Maupin, Chase
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in response.
Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
Gstreamer - 15
Gstreamer base plugins - 56
Gstreamer good plugins - 11
Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we have decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg. gstreamer-glsdk.
Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
Regards,
Mrinmayee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
> To: Maupin, Chase
> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-arago@arago-
> project.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework
> and plugins recipes
>
> Mrinmayee,
>
> Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the amount and
> size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And you
> still have not answered that.
>
> The reason we are asking this simple question is because the changes
> you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be accepted
> as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15 instead of
> COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the patches,
> you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change the
> SRC_URI completely for your machine.
>
> Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in the
> discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
>
> --
> Denys
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > >bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
> > >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
> > >To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> > >Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >framework and plugins recipes
> > >
> > >All of your appends are currently blocking all of the gstreamer
> > >plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way to
> > >only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all other
> > >machines ignore the bbappend.
> > >
> > >Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
> > >sources it probably would be better to break out the patches from
> > >your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap machine.
> >
> > This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to
> particular
> > gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But number of
> patches
> > is something that would weigh in here.
> >
> > >
> > >Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called omap-
> > ><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base gstreamer
> > >recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a look at
> > >the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
> > >http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
> > >arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
> > >
> > >Or
> > >Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate this
> > >isn't the standard gstreamer.
> >
> > If not patches one of the above seems right.
> >
> > >
> > >Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > >> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > >> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> > >> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> > >> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >framework and
> > >> plugins recipes
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee Hingolikar
> > >wrote:
> > >> > This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> > >> > base, good, bad and ugly.
> > >> >
> > >> > The development trees for all of these components are
> > >mainitained at
> > >> > git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
> > >releases.
> > >>
> > >> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> > >> > multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> > >> >
> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend | 25
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend | 22
> > >> +++++++++++++++++
> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend | 20
> > >> ++++++++++++++++
> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb | 23
> > >++++++++++++++++++
> > >> > .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend | 16
> > >+++++++++++++
> > >> > 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> > >> > create mode 100644
> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> > >bad_0.10.23
> > >> > .bbappend create mode 100644
> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> > >base_0.10.3
> > >> > 6.bbappend create mode 100644
> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> > >good_0.10.3
> > >> > 1.bbappend create mode 100644
> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-
> > >ugly_0.10.1
> > >> > 8.bb create mode 100644
> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-
> > >multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> > >> > end
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > 1.7.9.5
> > >> >
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > meta-arago mailing list
> > >> > meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >> > http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> meta-arago mailing list
> > >> meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >meta-arago mailing list
> > >meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-11 6:15 ` Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
@ 2013-11-11 14:35 ` Maupin, Chase
2013-11-11 19:25 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-11-14 6:07 ` Siddharth Heroor
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Maupin, Chase @ 2013-11-11 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee, Dmytriyenko, Denys
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
Mrinmayee,
Some things that would help would be if you could give us an idea about the following:
1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new components?
2. If new components are being added why not create a separate project for them so that it is easier to work on moving them along with different releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the "base" gstreamer and the new elements. This way if another group wants to look at supporting a different gstreamer version your changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the plan/schedule for pushing those patches up to the gstreamer mainline to minimize what is being carried?
This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to being ready to adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this patchset? What is the plan for handling migrations and is a consolidated code base the easiest way to do this?
Sincerely,
Chase Maupin
Integration Team Manager
Linux Core Product Development
e-mail: chase.maupin@ti.com
phone: (214) 567-2950
For support:
Forums - http://community.ti.com/forums/
Wiki - http://wiki.davincidsp.com/
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
>Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>framework and plugins recipes
>
>I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
>response.
>Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
>
>Gstreamer - 15
>Gstreamer base plugins - 56
>Gstreamer good plugins - 11
>Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
>
>Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we have
>decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
>gstreamer-glsdk.
>Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
>
>Regards,
>Mrinmayee
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
>> To: Maupin, Chase
>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
>arago@arago-
>> project.org
>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>framework
>> and plugins recipes
>>
>> Mrinmayee,
>>
>> Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the amount
>and
>> size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
>you
>> still have not answered that.
>>
>> The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
>changes
>> you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
>accepted
>> as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
>instead of
>> COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
>patches,
>> you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
>the
>> SRC_URI completely for your machine.
>>
>> Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in the
>> discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Denys
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>arago-
>> > >bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
>> > >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
>> > >To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>> > >Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> > >Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>> > >framework and plugins recipes
>> > >
>> > >All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
>gstreamer
>> > >plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way
>to
>> > >only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
>other
>> > >machines ignore the bbappend.
>> > >
>> > >Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
>> > >sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
>from
>> > >your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
>machine.
>> >
>> > This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to
>> particular
>> > gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
>number of
>> patches
>> > is something that would weigh in here.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
>omap-
>> > ><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
>gstreamer
>> > >recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
>look at
>> > >the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
>> > >http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
>> > >arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
>> > >
>> > >Or
>> > >Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
>this
>> > >isn't the standard gstreamer.
>> >
>> > If not patches one of the above seems right.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>arago-
>> > >> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
>> > >> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
>> > >> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>> > >> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> > >> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>> > >framework and
>> > >> plugins recipes
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
>Hingolikar
>> > >wrote:
>> > >> > This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
>> > >> > base, good, bad and ugly.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The development trees for all of these components are
>> > >mainitained at
>> > >> > git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
>> > >releases.
>> > >>
>> > >> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
>> > >> > multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
>> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
>> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
>> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
>> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
>25
>> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
>22
>> > >> +++++++++++++++++
>> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
>20
>> > >> ++++++++++++++++
>> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
>23
>> > >++++++++++++++++++
>> > >> > .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
>16
>> > >+++++++++++++
>> > >> > 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
>> > >> > create mode 100644
>> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>plugins-
>> > >bad_0.10.23
>> > >> > .bbappend create mode 100644
>> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>plugins-
>> > >base_0.10.3
>> > >> > 6.bbappend create mode 100644
>> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>plugins-
>> > >good_0.10.3
>> > >> > 1.bbappend create mode 100644
>> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>plugins-
>> > >ugly_0.10.1
>> > >> > 8.bb create mode 100644
>> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-
>> > >multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
>> > >> > end
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > 1.7.9.5
>> > >> >
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > meta-arago mailing list
>> > >> > meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> > >> > http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>arago
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> meta-arago mailing list
>> > >> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> > >> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>arago
>> > >_______________________________________________
>> > >meta-arago mailing list
>> > >meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> > >http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-11 14:35 ` Maupin, Chase
@ 2013-11-11 19:25 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-11-14 6:00 ` Siddharth Heroor
2013-11-14 6:07 ` Siddharth Heroor
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2013-11-11 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maupin, Chase; +Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
Just one thing to remember - we are talking here about 0.10.x line of
gstreamer and plugins. With the recent release of gstreamer 1.0, upstream is
no longer paying any attention to the old codebase, not even accepting bug
fixes...
--
Denys
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 02:35:37PM +0000, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> Mrinmayee,
>
> Some things that would help would be if you could give us an idea about the
> following:
>
> 1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new components?
> 2. If new components are being added why not create a separate project for
> them so that it is easier to work on moving them along with different
> releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the "base" gstreamer and the new
> elements. This way if another group wants to look at supporting a different
> gstreamer version your changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
> 3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the plan/schedule for
> pushing those patches up to the gstreamer mainline to minimize what is being
> carried?
>
> This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to being ready to
> adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this patchset? What is the plan
> for handling migrations and is a consolidated code base the easiest way to
> do this?
>
> Sincerely,
> Chase Maupin
> Integration Team Manager
> Linux Core Product Development
> e-mail: chase.maupin@ti.com
> phone: (214) 567-2950
>
> For support:
> Forums - http://community.ti.com/forums/
> Wiki - http://wiki.davincidsp.com/
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
> >To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
> >Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >framework and plugins recipes
> >
> >I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
> >response.
> >Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
> >
> >Gstreamer - 15
> >Gstreamer base plugins - 56
> >Gstreamer good plugins - 11
> >Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
> >
> >Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we have
> >decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
> >gstreamer-glsdk.
> >Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Mrinmayee
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
> >> To: Maupin, Chase
> >> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
> >arago@arago-
> >> project.org
> >> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >framework
> >> and plugins recipes
> >>
> >> Mrinmayee,
> >>
> >> Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the amount
> >and
> >> size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
> >you
> >> still have not answered that.
> >>
> >> The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
> >changes
> >> you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
> >accepted
> >> as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
> >instead of
> >> COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
> >patches,
> >> you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
> >the
> >> SRC_URI completely for your machine.
> >>
> >> Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in the
> >> discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Denys
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> >arago-
> >> > >bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
> >> > >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
> >> > >To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >> > >Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> > >Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >> > >framework and plugins recipes
> >> > >
> >> > >All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
> >gstreamer
> >> > >plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way
> >to
> >> > >only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
> >other
> >> > >machines ignore the bbappend.
> >> > >
> >> > >Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
> >> > >sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
> >from
> >> > >your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
> >machine.
> >> >
> >> > This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to
> >> particular
> >> > gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
> >number of
> >> patches
> >> > is something that would weigh in here.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
> >omap-
> >> > ><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
> >gstreamer
> >> > >recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
> >look at
> >> > >the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
> >> > >http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
> >> > >arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
> >> > >
> >> > >Or
> >> > >Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
> >this
> >> > >isn't the standard gstreamer.
> >> >
> >> > If not patches one of the above seems right.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> >arago-
> >> > >> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >> > >> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> >> > >> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >> > >> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >> > >framework and
> >> > >> plugins recipes
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
> >Hingolikar
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> > This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> >> > >> > base, good, bad and ugly.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The development trees for all of these components are
> >> > >mainitained at
> >> > >> > git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
> >> > >releases.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> >> > >> > multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> >> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> >> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> >> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> >> > >> > multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
> >25
> >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++
> >> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
> >22
> >> > >> +++++++++++++++++
> >> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
> >20
> >> > >> ++++++++++++++++
> >> > >> > .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
> >23
> >> > >++++++++++++++++++
> >> > >> > .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
> >16
> >> > >+++++++++++++
> >> > >> > 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> >> > >> > create mode 100644
> >> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >plugins-
> >> > >bad_0.10.23
> >> > >> > .bbappend create mode 100644
> >> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >plugins-
> >> > >base_0.10.3
> >> > >> > 6.bbappend create mode 100644
> >> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >plugins-
> >> > >good_0.10.3
> >> > >> > 1.bbappend create mode 100644
> >> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >plugins-
> >> > >ugly_0.10.1
> >> > >> > 8.bb create mode 100644
> >> > >> > meta-arago-extras/recipes-
> >> > >multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> >> > >> > end
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > 1.7.9.5
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > >> > meta-arago mailing list
> >> > >> > meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> > >> > http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
> >arago
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > >> meta-arago mailing list
> >> > >> meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> > >> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
> >arago
> >> > >_______________________________________________
> >> > >meta-arago mailing list
> >> > >meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >> > >http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> _______________________________________________
> meta-arago mailing list
> meta-arago@arago-project.org
> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
>
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-11 19:25 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2013-11-14 6:00 ` Siddharth Heroor
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Siddharth Heroor @ 2013-11-14 6:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Denys Dmytriyenko, Maupin, Chase
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
On 11/12/2013 12:55 AM, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> Just one thing to remember - we are talking here about 0.10.x line of
> gstreamer and plugins. With the recent release of gstreamer 1.0, upstream is
> no longer paying any attention to the old codebase, not even accepting bug
> fixes...
>
Just to add, a lot of these patches are as a result of TI working
closely with Collabora on OMAP4 GLP. On the question of upstream picking
them, it's moot because we will need to move to Gstreamer 1.2+ next year
anyways.
--
Sid
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-11 14:35 ` Maupin, Chase
2013-11-11 19:25 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2013-11-14 6:07 ` Siddharth Heroor
2013-11-14 7:07 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-11-14 14:14 ` Maupin, Chase
1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Siddharth Heroor @ 2013-11-14 6:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maupin, Chase, Hingolikar, Mrinmayee, Dmytriyenko, Denys
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
On 11/11/2013 8:05 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> Mrinmayee,
>
> Some things that would help would be if you could give us an idea about the following:
>
> 1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new components?
As I mentioned these patches are a result of the GLP work on OMAP4.
> 2. If new components are being added why not create a separate project for them so that it is easier to work on moving them along with different releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the "base" gstreamer and the new elements. This way if another group wants to look at supporting a different gstreamer version your changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
> 3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the plan/schedule for pushing those patches up to the gstreamer mainline to minimize what is being carried?
>
> This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to being ready to adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this patchset? What is the plan for handling migrations and is a consolidated code base the easiest way to do this?
Interestingly, as an example, the original work on gst-wayland was part
of a separate plugin - gst-ducati. As part of the GLP work, this was
moved to gst-plugins-ugly. Upstream GStreamer have a proposal for a
Wayland Sink that we will need to move to in the future. So, the way I
see it, these are specific to current work and not a roadmap.
The choices are either we carry the patches on glsdk staging tree or we
host them on meta-ti as a separate recipe because I see that we will
need to move to GStreamer 1.x in the future regardless. Either way, we
are carrying patches that we inherited and now are getting flack for
someone else not upstreaming them 2 years ago when we weren't even
involved. :-(
> Sincerely,
> Chase Maupin
> Integration Team Manager
> Linux Core Product Development
> e-mail: chase.maupin@ti.com
> phone: (214) 567-2950
>
> For support:
> Forums - http://community.ti.com/forums/
> Wiki - http://wiki.davincidsp.com/
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
>> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
>> Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>> framework and plugins recipes
>>
>> I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
>> response.
>> Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
>>
>> Gstreamer - 15
>> Gstreamer base plugins - 56
>> Gstreamer good plugins - 11
>> Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
>>
>> Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we have
>> decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
>> gstreamer-glsdk.
>> Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mrinmayee
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
>>> To: Maupin, Chase
>>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
>> arago@arago-
>>> project.org
>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>> framework
>>> and plugins recipes
>>>
>>> Mrinmayee,
>>>
>>> Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the amount
>> and
>>> size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
>> you
>>> still have not answered that.
>>>
>>> The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
>> changes
>>> you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
>> accepted
>>> as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
>> instead of
>>> COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
>> patches,
>>> you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
>> the
>>> SRC_URI completely for your machine.
>>>
>>> Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in the
>>> discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Denys
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>> arago-
>>>>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
>>>>> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>>> framework and plugins recipes
>>>>>
>>>>> All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
>> gstreamer
>>>>> plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way
>> to
>>>>> only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
>> other
>>>>> machines ignore the bbappend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
>>>>> sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
>> from
>>>>> your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
>> machine.
>>>> This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to
>>> particular
>>>> gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
>> number of
>>> patches
>>>> is something that would weigh in here.
>>>>
>>>>> Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
>> omap-
>>>>> <base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
>> gstreamer
>>>>> recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
>> look at
>>>>> the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
>>>>> http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
>>>>> arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
>>>>>
>>>>> Or
>>>>> Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
>> this
>>>>> isn't the standard gstreamer.
>>>> If not patches one of the above seems right.
>>>>
>>>>> Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>> arago-
>>>>>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
>>>>>> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>>>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>>> framework and
>>>>>> plugins recipes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
>> Hingolikar
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
>>>>>>> base, good, bad and ugly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The development trees for all of these components are
>>>>> mainitained at
>>>>>>> git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
>>>>> releases.
>>>>>> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
>>>>>>> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
>> 25
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
>> 22
>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
>> 20
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
>> 23
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
>> 16
>>>>> +++++++++++++
>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
>>>>>>> create mode 100644
>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>> plugins-
>>>>> bad_0.10.23
>>>>>>> .bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>> plugins-
>>>>> base_0.10.3
>>>>>>> 6.bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>> plugins-
>>>>> good_0.10.3
>>>>>>> 1.bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>> plugins-
>>>>> ugly_0.10.1
>>>>>>> 8.bb create mode 100644
>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-
>>>>> multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 1.7.9.5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>> arago
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>> arago
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> _______________________________________________
> meta-arago mailing list
> meta-arago@arago-project.org
> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-14 6:07 ` Siddharth Heroor
@ 2013-11-14 7:07 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-11-14 14:14 ` Maupin, Chase
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2013-11-14 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Siddharth Heroor; +Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:37:21AM +0530, Siddharth Heroor wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 8:05 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >Mrinmayee,
> >
> >Some things that would help would be if you could give us an idea about the following:
> >
> >1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new components?
> As I mentioned these patches are a result of the GLP work on OMAP4.
> >2. If new components are being added why not create a separate project for
> >them so that it is easier to work on moving them along with different
> >releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the "base" gstreamer and the
> >new elements. This way if another group wants to look at supporting a
> >different gstreamer version your changes are isolated from the gstreamer
> >base.
>
> >3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the plan/schedule for
> >pushing those patches up to the gstreamer mainline to minimize what is
> >being carried?
> >
> >This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to being ready to
> >adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this patchset? What is the plan
> >for handling migrations and is a consolidated code base the easiest way to
> >do this?
> Interestingly, as an example, the original work on gst-wayland was
> part of a separate plugin - gst-ducati. As part of the GLP work,
> this was moved to gst-plugins-ugly. Upstream GStreamer have a
> proposal for a Wayland Sink that we will need to move to in the
> future. So, the way I see it, these are specific to current work and
> not a roadmap.
>
> The choices are either we carry the patches on glsdk staging tree or
> we host them on meta-ti as a separate recipe because I see that we
> will need to move to GStreamer 1.x in the future regardless. Either
> way, we are carrying patches that we inherited and now are getting
> flack for someone else not upstreaming them 2 years ago when we
> weren't even involved. :-(
Understood. Thanks, Sid, for the details. But since we are talking about
200-250 patches, keeping them in metadata would be too much overhead. I guess
if it's specific to glsdk, we can have the custom recipes to point to your
trees...
--
Denys
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
> >>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
> >>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>framework and plugins recipes
> >>
> >>I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
> >>response.
> >>Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
> >>
> >>Gstreamer - 15
> >>Gstreamer base plugins - 56
> >>Gstreamer good plugins - 11
> >>Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
> >>
> >>Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we have
> >>decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
> >>gstreamer-glsdk.
> >>Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Mrinmayee
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >>>Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
> >>>To: Maupin, Chase
> >>>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
> >>arago@arago-
> >>>project.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>framework
> >>>and plugins recipes
> >>>
> >>>Mrinmayee,
> >>>
> >>>Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the amount
> >>and
> >>>size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
> >>you
> >>>still have not answered that.
> >>>
> >>>The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
> >>changes
> >>>you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
> >>accepted
> >>>as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
> >>instead of
> >>>COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
> >>patches,
> >>>you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
> >>the
> >>>SRC_URI completely for your machine.
> >>>
> >>>Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in the
> >>>discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Denys
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> >>arago-
> >>>>>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
> >>>>>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >>>>>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>>>>framework and plugins recipes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
> >>gstreamer
> >>>>>plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no way
> >>to
> >>>>>only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
> >>other
> >>>>>machines ignore the bbappend.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
> >>>>>sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
> >>from
> >>>>>your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
> >>machine.
> >>>>This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked to
> >>>particular
> >>>>gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
> >>number of
> >>>patches
> >>>>is something that would weigh in here.
> >>>>
> >>>>>Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
> >>omap-
> >>>>><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
> >>gstreamer
> >>>>>recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
> >>look at
> >>>>>the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
> >>>>>http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
> >>>>>arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Or
> >>>>>Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
> >>this
> >>>>>isn't the standard gstreamer.
> >>>>If not patches one of the above seems right.
> >>>>
> >>>>>Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> >>arago-
> >>>>>>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> >>>>>>To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >>>>>>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>>>>framework and
> >>>>>>plugins recipes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
> >>Hingolikar
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> >>>>>>>base, good, bad and ugly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The development trees for all of these components are
> >>>>>mainitained at
> >>>>>>>git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
> >>>>>releases.
> >>>>>>Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> >>>>>>> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> >>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> >>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> >>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> >>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
> >>25
> >>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
> >>22
> >>>>>>+++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
> >>20
> >>>>>>++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
> >>23
> >>>>>++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
> >>16
> >>>>>+++++++++++++
> >>>>>>> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>> create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>plugins-
> >>>>>bad_0.10.23
> >>>>>>>.bbappend create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>plugins-
> >>>>>base_0.10.3
> >>>>>>>6.bbappend create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>plugins-
> >>>>>good_0.10.3
> >>>>>>>1.bbappend create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>plugins-
> >>>>>ugly_0.10.1
> >>>>>>>8.bb create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-
> >>>>>multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> >>>>>>>end
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>1.7.9.5
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>meta-arago mailing list
> >>>>>>>meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>>>http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
> >>arago
> >>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>meta-arago mailing list
> >>>>>>meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>>http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
> >>arago
> >>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>meta-arago mailing list
> >>>>>meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
> >_______________________________________________
> >meta-arago mailing list
> >meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
>
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-14 6:07 ` Siddharth Heroor
2013-11-14 7:07 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2013-11-14 14:14 ` Maupin, Chase
2013-11-15 3:55 ` Siddharth Heroor
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Maupin, Chase @ 2013-11-14 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heroor, Siddharth, Hingolikar, Mrinmayee, Dmytriyenko, Denys
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heroor, Siddharth
>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:07 AM
>To: Maupin, Chase; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; Dmytriyenko, Denys
>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org; Cooper Jr., Franklin
>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>framework and plugins recipes
>
>On 11/11/2013 8:05 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>> Mrinmayee,
>>
>> Some things that would help would be if you could give us an
>idea about the following:
>>
>> 1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new
>components?
>As I mentioned these patches are a result of the GLP work on
>OMAP4.
>> 2. If new components are being added why not create a separate
>project for them so that it is easier to work on moving them along
>with different releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the
>"base" gstreamer and the new elements. This way if another group
>wants to look at supporting a different gstreamer version your
>changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
>
>> 3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the
>plan/schedule for pushing those patches up to the gstreamer
>mainline to minimize what is being carried?
>>
>> This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to
>being ready to adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this
>patchset? What is the plan for handling migrations and is a
>consolidated code base the easiest way to do this?
>Interestingly, as an example, the original work on gst-wayland was
>part
>of a separate plugin - gst-ducati. As part of the GLP work, this
>was
>moved to gst-plugins-ugly. Upstream GStreamer have a proposal for
>a
>Wayland Sink that we will need to move to in the future. So, the
>way I
>see it, these are specific to current work and not a roadmap.
>
>The choices are either we carry the patches on glsdk staging tree
>or we
>host them on meta-ti as a separate recipe because I see that we
>will
>need to move to GStreamer 1.x in the future regardless. Either
>way, we
>are carrying patches that we inherited and now are getting flack
>for
>someone else not upstreaming them 2 years ago when we weren't even
>involved. :-(
Not trying to give you flack. Just trying to understand what was going on and if there was a better way to separate this code to make it more portable. Knowing there is a plan to get to 1.x is a good thing and helps us in making a recommendation on how to proceed. I think we can work with these recipes, but they need to be modified to not apply to all devices but instead limit them to your device.
>
>> Sincerely,
>> Chase Maupin
>> Integration Team Manager
>> Linux Core Product Development
>> e-mail: chase.maupin@ti.com
>> phone: (214) 567-2950
>>
>> For support:
>> Forums - http://community.ti.com/forums/
>> Wiki - http://wiki.davincidsp.com/
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
>>> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
>>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>> Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>> framework and plugins recipes
>>>
>>> I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
>>> response.
>>> Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
>>>
>>> Gstreamer - 15
>>> Gstreamer base plugins - 56
>>> Gstreamer good plugins - 11
>>> Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
>>>
>>> Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we
>have
>>> decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
>>> gstreamer-glsdk.
>>> Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mrinmayee
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
>>>> To: Maupin, Chase
>>>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
>>> arago@arago-
>>>> project.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>> framework
>>>> and plugins recipes
>>>>
>>>> Mrinmayee,
>>>>
>>>> Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the
>amount
>>> and
>>>> size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
>>> you
>>>> still have not answered that.
>>>>
>>>> The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
>>> changes
>>>> you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
>>> accepted
>>>> as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
>>> instead of
>>>> COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
>>> patches,
>>>> you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
>>> the
>>>> SRC_URI completely for your machine.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in
>the
>>>> discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Denys
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>>> arago-
>>>>>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>>>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>>>> framework and plugins recipes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
>>> gstreamer
>>>>>> plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no
>way
>>> to
>>>>>> only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
>>> other
>>>>>> machines ignore the bbappend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
>>>>>> sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
>>> from
>>>>>> your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
>>> machine.
>>>>> This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked
>to
>>>> particular
>>>>> gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
>>> number of
>>>> patches
>>>>> is something that would weigh in here.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
>>> omap-
>>>>>> <base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
>>> gstreamer
>>>>>> recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
>>> look at
>>>>>> the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-
>arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
>>>>>> arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or
>>>>>> Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
>>> this
>>>>>> isn't the standard gstreamer.
>>>>> If not patches one of the above seems right.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>>> arago-
>>>>>>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
>>>>>>> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>>>>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>>>> framework and
>>>>>>> plugins recipes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
>>> Hingolikar
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
>>>>>>>> base, good, bad and ugly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The development trees for all of these components are
>>>>>> mainitained at
>>>>>>>> git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
>>>>>>>> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
>>> 25
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
>>> 22
>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
>>> 20
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
>>> 23
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
>>> 16
>>>>>> +++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>> create mode 100644
>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>> plugins-
>>>>>> bad_0.10.23
>>>>>>>> .bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>> plugins-
>>>>>> base_0.10.3
>>>>>>>> 6.bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>> plugins-
>>>>>> good_0.10.3
>>>>>>>> 1.bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>> plugins-
>>>>>> ugly_0.10.1
>>>>>>>> 8.bb create mode 100644
>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-
>>>>>> multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 1.7.9.5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>>> arago
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>>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>>> arago
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-14 14:14 ` Maupin, Chase
@ 2013-11-15 3:55 ` Siddharth Heroor
2013-11-15 7:43 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Siddharth Heroor @ 2013-11-15 3:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maupin, Chase, Hingolikar, Mrinmayee, Dmytriyenko, Denys
Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
On 11/14/2013 7:44 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Heroor, Siddharth
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:07 AM
>> To: Maupin, Chase; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; Dmytriyenko, Denys
>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org; Cooper Jr., Franklin
>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>> framework and plugins recipes
>>
>> On 11/11/2013 8:05 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>>> Mrinmayee,
>>>
>>> Some things that would help would be if you could give us an
>> idea about the following:
>>> 1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new
>> components?
>> As I mentioned these patches are a result of the GLP work on
>> OMAP4.
>>> 2. If new components are being added why not create a separate
>> project for them so that it is easier to work on moving them along
>> with different releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the
>> "base" gstreamer and the new elements. This way if another group
>> wants to look at supporting a different gstreamer version your
>> changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
>>
>>> 3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the
>> plan/schedule for pushing those patches up to the gstreamer
>> mainline to minimize what is being carried?
>>> This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to
>> being ready to adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this
>> patchset? What is the plan for handling migrations and is a
>> consolidated code base the easiest way to do this?
>> Interestingly, as an example, the original work on gst-wayland was
>> part
>> of a separate plugin - gst-ducati. As part of the GLP work, this
>> was
>> moved to gst-plugins-ugly. Upstream GStreamer have a proposal for
>> a
>> Wayland Sink that we will need to move to in the future. So, the
>> way I
>> see it, these are specific to current work and not a roadmap.
>>
>> The choices are either we carry the patches on glsdk staging tree
>> or we
>> host them on meta-ti as a separate recipe because I see that we
>> will
>> need to move to GStreamer 1.x in the future regardless. Either
>> way, we
>> are carrying patches that we inherited and now are getting flack
>> for
>> someone else not upstreaming them 2 years ago when we weren't even
>> involved. :-(
> Not trying to give you flack. Just trying to understand what was going on and if there was a better way to separate this code to make it more portable. Knowing there is a plan to get to 1.x is a good thing and helps us in making a recommendation on how to proceed. I think we can work with these recipes, but they need to be modified to not apply to all devices but instead limit them to your device.
Right. Let's limit the recipes to OMAP5 and J6 but is it possible for it
to be built and tested in the Core SDK context? Or do you recommend that
we use -glsdk.bb for the recipe and give a preferred provider in the
branding file?
>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Chase Maupin
>>> Integration Team Manager
>>> Linux Core Product Development
>>> e-mail: chase.maupin@ti.com
>>> phone: (214) 567-2950
>>>
>>> For support:
>>> Forums - http://community.ti.com/forums/
>>> Wiki - http://wiki.davincidsp.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
>>>> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
>>>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>> framework and plugins recipes
>>>>
>>>> I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
>>>> response.
>>>> Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
>>>>
>>>> Gstreamer - 15
>>>> Gstreamer base plugins - 56
>>>> Gstreamer good plugins - 11
>>>> Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
>>>>
>>>> Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we
>> have
>>>> decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
>>>> gstreamer-glsdk.
>>>> Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mrinmayee
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
>>>>> To: Maupin, Chase
>>>>> Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
>>>> arago@arago-
>>>>> project.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>> framework
>>>>> and plugins recipes
>>>>>
>>>>> Mrinmayee,
>>>>>
>>>>> Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the
>> amount
>>>> and
>>>>> size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
>>>> you
>>>>> still have not answered that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
>>>> changes
>>>>> you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
>>>> accepted
>>>>> as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
>>>> instead of
>>>>> COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
>>>> patches,
>>>>> you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
>>>> the
>>>>> SRC_URI completely for your machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in
>> the
>>>>> discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Denys
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>>>> arago-
>>>>>>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>>>>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>>>>> framework and plugins recipes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
>>>> gstreamer
>>>>>>> plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no
>> way
>>>> to
>>>>>>> only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
>>>> other
>>>>>>> machines ignore the bbappend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
>>>>>>> sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
>>>> from
>>>>>>> your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
>>>> machine.
>>>>>> This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked
>> to
>>>>> particular
>>>>>> gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
>>>> number of
>>>>> patches
>>>>>> is something that would weigh in here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
>>>> omap-
>>>>>>> <base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
>>>> gstreamer
>>>>>>> recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
>>>> look at
>>>>>>> the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-
>> arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
>>>>>>> arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>> Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
>>>> this
>>>>>>> isn't the standard gstreamer.
>>>>>> If not patches one of the above seems right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
>>>> arago-
>>>>>>>> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
>>>>>>>> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
>>>>>>> framework and
>>>>>>>> plugins recipes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
>>>> Hingolikar
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
>>>>>>>>> base, good, bad and ugly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The development trees for all of these components are
>>>>>>> mainitained at
>>>>>>>>> git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>> Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
>>>>>>>>> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
>>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
>>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
>>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
>>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
>>>> 25
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
>>>> 22
>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
>>>> 20
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
>>>> 23
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
>>>> 16
>>>>>>> +++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>> create mode 100644
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>>> plugins-
>>>>>>> bad_0.10.23
>>>>>>>>> .bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>>> plugins-
>>>>>>> base_0.10.3
>>>>>>>>> 6.bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>>> plugins-
>>>>>>> good_0.10.3
>>>>>>>>> 1.bbappend create mode 100644
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
>>>> plugins-
>>>>>>> ugly_0.10.1
>>>>>>>>> 8.bb create mode 100644
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago-extras/recipes-
>>>>>>> multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 1.7.9.5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>>>> arago
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
>>>> arago
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> meta-arago mailing list
>>>>>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>>>>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> meta-arago@arago-project.org
>>> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-15 3:55 ` Siddharth Heroor
@ 2013-11-15 7:43 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2013-11-21 4:46 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2013-11-15 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Siddharth Heroor; +Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:25:10AM +0530, Siddharth Heroor wrote:
> On 11/14/2013 7:44 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Heroor, Siddharth
> >>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:07 AM
> >>To: Maupin, Chase; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org; Cooper Jr., Franklin
> >>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>framework and plugins recipes
> >>
> >>On 11/11/2013 8:05 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >>>Mrinmayee,
> >>>
> >>>Some things that would help would be if you could give us an
> >>idea about the following:
> >>>1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new
> >>components?
> >>As I mentioned these patches are a result of the GLP work on
> >>OMAP4.
> >>>2. If new components are being added why not create a separate
> >>project for them so that it is easier to work on moving them along
> >>with different releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the
> >>"base" gstreamer and the new elements. This way if another group
> >>wants to look at supporting a different gstreamer version your
> >>changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
> >>
> >>>3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the
> >>plan/schedule for pushing those patches up to the gstreamer
> >>mainline to minimize what is being carried?
> >>>This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to
> >>being ready to adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this
> >>patchset? What is the plan for handling migrations and is a
> >>consolidated code base the easiest way to do this?
> >>Interestingly, as an example, the original work on gst-wayland was
> >>part
> >>of a separate plugin - gst-ducati. As part of the GLP work, this
> >>was
> >>moved to gst-plugins-ugly. Upstream GStreamer have a proposal for
> >>a
> >>Wayland Sink that we will need to move to in the future. So, the
> >>way I
> >>see it, these are specific to current work and not a roadmap.
> >>
> >>The choices are either we carry the patches on glsdk staging tree
> >>or we
> >>host them on meta-ti as a separate recipe because I see that we
> >>will
> >>need to move to GStreamer 1.x in the future regardless. Either
> >>way, we
> >>are carrying patches that we inherited and now are getting flack
> >>for
> >>someone else not upstreaming them 2 years ago when we weren't even
> >>involved. :-(
> >Not trying to give you flack. Just trying to understand what was going on
> >and if there was a better way to separate this code to make it more
> >portable. Knowing there is a plan to get to 1.x is a good thing and helps
> >us in making a recommendation on how to proceed. I think we can work with
> >these recipes, but they need to be modified to not apply to all devices but
> >instead limit them to your device.
>
> Right. Let's limit the recipes to OMAP5 and J6 but is it possible
> for it to be built and tested in the Core SDK context? Or do you
> recommend that we use -glsdk.bb for the recipe and give a preferred
> provider in the branding file?
There are 2 options:
1. create separate -glsdk versions of the recipe (gstreamer and all plugins)
and then in the arago.conf point preferred provider to those recipes for omap5
and j6 platforms (or entire omap-a15 SOC family)
2. re-use the same recipes (or rather bbappends, since we don't carry complete
recipes in meta-arago) and then machine-override necessary variables, like
SRC_URI to point to your trees, but only for specific machines. E.g.
SRC_URI_omap-a15 = "git://omapzoom.org..." or SRC_URI_append_omap-a15 =
"file://some.patch"
The first one is cleaner and easier to maintain, but also easier to diverge or
get stale...
--
Denys
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >>>>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
> >>>>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
> >>>>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>>>framework and plugins recipes
> >>>>
> >>>>I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
> >>>>response.
> >>>>Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
> >>>>
> >>>>Gstreamer - 15
> >>>>Gstreamer base plugins - 56
> >>>>Gstreamer good plugins - 11
> >>>>Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
> >>>>
> >>>>Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we
> >>have
> >>>>decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
> >>>>gstreamer-glsdk.
> >>>>Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>Mrinmayee
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
> >>>>>To: Maupin, Chase
> >>>>>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
> >>>>arago@arago-
> >>>>>project.org
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>>>framework
> >>>>>and plugins recipes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mrinmayee,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the
> >>amount
> >>>>and
> >>>>>size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
> >>>>you
> >>>>>still have not answered that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
> >>>>changes
> >>>>>you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
> >>>>accepted
> >>>>>as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
> >>>>instead of
> >>>>>COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
> >>>>patches,
> >>>>>you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
> >>>>the
> >>>>>SRC_URI completely for your machine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in
> >>the
> >>>>>discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Denys
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> >>>>arago-
> >>>>>>>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
> >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
> >>>>>>>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >>>>>>>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>>>>>>framework and plugins recipes
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
> >>>>gstreamer
> >>>>>>>plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no
> >>way
> >>>>to
> >>>>>>>only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
> >>>>other
> >>>>>>>machines ignore the bbappend.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
> >>>>>>>sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
> >>>>from
> >>>>>>>your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
> >>>>machine.
> >>>>>>This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked
> >>to
> >>>>>particular
> >>>>>>gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
> >>>>number of
> >>>>>patches
> >>>>>>is something that would weigh in here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
> >>>>omap-
> >>>>>>><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
> >>>>gstreamer
> >>>>>>>recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
> >>>>look at
> >>>>>>>the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
> >>>>>>>http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-
> >>arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
> >>>>>>>arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Or
> >>>>>>>Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
> >>>>this
> >>>>>>>isn't the standard gstreamer.
> >>>>>>If not patches one of the above seems right.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> >>>>arago-
> >>>>>>>>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> >>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> >>>>>>>>To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> >>>>>>>>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> >>>>>>>framework and
> >>>>>>>>plugins recipes
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
> >>>>Hingolikar
> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> >>>>>>>>>base, good, bad and ugly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The development trees for all of these components are
> >>>>>>>mainitained at
> >>>>>>>>>git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
> >>>>>>>releases.
> >>>>>>>>Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> >>>>>>>>> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
> >>>>25
> >>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
> >>>>22
> >>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
> >>>>20
> >>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
> >>>>23
> >>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
> >>>>16
> >>>>>>>+++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>>>> create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>>>plugins-
> >>>>>>>bad_0.10.23
> >>>>>>>>>.bbappend create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>>>plugins-
> >>>>>>>base_0.10.3
> >>>>>>>>>6.bbappend create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>>>plugins-
> >>>>>>>good_0.10.3
> >>>>>>>>>1.bbappend create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> >>>>plugins-
> >>>>>>>ugly_0.10.1
> >>>>>>>>>8.bb create mode 100644
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-
> >>>>>>>multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> >>>>>>>>>end
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>1.7.9.5
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>meta-arago@arago-project.org
> >>>>>>>>>http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-
> >>>>arago
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* Re: [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia framework and plugins recipes
2013-11-15 7:43 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2013-11-21 4:46 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
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From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2013-11-21 4:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Siddharth Heroor; +Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org, Cooper Jr., Franklin
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 02:43:44AM -0500, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:25:10AM +0530, Siddharth Heroor wrote:
> > On 11/14/2013 7:44 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Heroor, Siddharth
> > >>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:07 AM
> > >>To: Maupin, Chase; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > >>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org; Cooper Jr., Franklin
> > >>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >>framework and plugins recipes
> > >>
> > >>On 11/11/2013 8:05 PM, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> > >>>Mrinmayee,
> > >>>
> > >>>Some things that would help would be if you could give us an
> > >>idea about the following:
> > >>>1. What are these patches adding? Are they adding new
> > >>components?
> > >>As I mentioned these patches are a result of the GLP work on
> > >>OMAP4.
> > >>>2. If new components are being added why not create a separate
> > >>project for them so that it is easier to work on moving them along
> > >>with different releases of gstreamer? Basically split out the
> > >>"base" gstreamer and the new elements. This way if another group
> > >>wants to look at supporting a different gstreamer version your
> > >>changes are isolated from the gstreamer base.
> > >>
> > >>>3. For patches against gstreamer elements what is the
> > >>plan/schedule for pushing those patches up to the gstreamer
> > >>mainline to minimize what is being carried?
> > >>>This basically boils down to what is the roadmap tomorrow to
> > >>being ready to adapt to new gstreamer releases and reduce this
> > >>patchset? What is the plan for handling migrations and is a
> > >>consolidated code base the easiest way to do this?
> > >>Interestingly, as an example, the original work on gst-wayland was
> > >>part
> > >>of a separate plugin - gst-ducati. As part of the GLP work, this
> > >>was
> > >>moved to gst-plugins-ugly. Upstream GStreamer have a proposal for
> > >>a
> > >>Wayland Sink that we will need to move to in the future. So, the
> > >>way I
> > >>see it, these are specific to current work and not a roadmap.
> > >>
> > >>The choices are either we carry the patches on glsdk staging tree
> > >>or we
> > >>host them on meta-ti as a separate recipe because I see that we
> > >>will
> > >>need to move to GStreamer 1.x in the future regardless. Either
> > >>way, we
> > >>are carrying patches that we inherited and now are getting flack
> > >>for
> > >>someone else not upstreaming them 2 years ago when we weren't even
> > >>involved. :-(
>
> > >Not trying to give you flack. Just trying to understand what was going on
> > >and if there was a better way to separate this code to make it more
> > >portable. Knowing there is a plan to get to 1.x is a good thing and helps
> > >us in making a recommendation on how to proceed. I think we can work with
> > >these recipes, but they need to be modified to not apply to all devices but
> > >instead limit them to your device.
> >
> > Right. Let's limit the recipes to OMAP5 and J6 but is it possible
> > for it to be built and tested in the Core SDK context? Or do you
> > recommend that we use -glsdk.bb for the recipe and give a preferred
> > provider in the branding file?
>
> There are 2 options:
>
> 1. create separate -glsdk versions of the recipe (gstreamer and all plugins)
> and then in the arago.conf point preferred provider to those recipes for omap5
> and j6 platforms (or entire omap-a15 SOC family)
>
> 2. re-use the same recipes (or rather bbappends, since we don't carry complete
> recipes in meta-arago) and then machine-override necessary variables, like
> SRC_URI to point to your trees, but only for specific machines. E.g.
> SRC_URI_omap-a15 = "git://omapzoom.org..." or SRC_URI_append_omap-a15 =
> "file://some.patch"
>
> The first one is cleaner and easier to maintain, but also easier to diverge or
> get stale...
Sid, Mrinmayee,
Have you decided how you want to proceed in this case?
--
Denys
> > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>From: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> > >>>>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:16 AM
> > >>>>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Maupin, Chase
> > >>>>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >>>>Subject: RE: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >>>>framework and plugins recipes
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I was on a long vacation, so I apologize for the delay in
> > >>>>response.
> > >>>>Here are the no. of patches on top of standard GStreamer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Gstreamer - 15
> > >>>>Gstreamer base plugins - 56
> > >>>>Gstreamer good plugins - 11
> > >>>>Gstreamer bad plugins - 195
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Based on Franklin's suggestions and discussions with Sid, we
> > >>have
> > >>>>decided to create new recipes with unique identifiers, for eg.
> > >>>>gstreamer-glsdk.
> > >>>>Kindly let me know if this approach is fine with you.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Regards,
> > >>>>Mrinmayee
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27 AM
> > >>>>>To: Maupin, Chase
> > >>>>>Cc: Cooper Jr., Franklin; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee; meta-
> > >>>>arago@arago-
> > >>>>>project.org
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >>>>framework
> > >>>>>and plugins recipes
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Mrinmayee,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Myself, Franklin and Chase have asked you to estimate the
> > >>amount
> > >>>>and
> > >>>>>size of the patches that you have in your gstreamer trees. And
> > >>>>you
> > >>>>>still have not answered that.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>The reason we are asking this simple question is because the
> > >>>>changes
> > >>>>>you are making to the recipes will affect others and cannot be
> > >>>>accepted
> > >>>>>as is. You would need to use machine override VAR_omap-a15
> > >>>>instead of
> > >>>>>COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and depending on the amount and size of the
> > >>>>patches,
> > >>>>>you either simply apply them just for your machine, or change
> > >>>>the
> > >>>>>SRC_URI completely for your machine.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Either way, I would like to encourage you to participate in
> > >>the
> > >>>>>discussion and not just disappear. Thank you.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>--
> > >>>>>Denys
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:08:48PM -0400, Maupin, Chase wrote:
> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> > >>>>arago-
> > >>>>>>>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Cooper Jr., Franklin
> > >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:27 AM
> > >>>>>>>To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> > >>>>>>>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >>>>>>>framework and plugins recipes
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>All of your appends are currently blocking all of the
> > >>>>gstreamer
> > >>>>>>>plugins for all machines other than omap-a15. There is no
> > >>way
> > >>>>to
> > >>>>>>>only apply a bbappend for a specific machine and have all
> > >>>>other
> > >>>>>>>machines ignore the bbappend.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Depending on your patch set on top of the standard gstreamer
> > >>>>>>>sources it probably would be better to break out the patches
> > >>>>from
> > >>>>>>>your git repo and add it to the SRC_URI for only the omap
> > >>>>machine.
> > >>>>>>This may be preferred just to help keep from getting locked
> > >>to
> > >>>>>particular
> > >>>>>>gstreamer version and make clear the changeds on top. But
> > >>>>number of
> > >>>>>patches
> > >>>>>>is something that would weigh in here.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Another approach would be to create a "new "recipe called
> > >>>>omap-
> > >>>>>>><base recipe name> that "requires/includes" the base
> > >>>>gstreamer
> > >>>>>>>recipe and then you can override whatever you want. Take a
> > >>>>look at
> > >>>>>>>the qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb recipe.
> > >>>>>>>http://arago-project.org/git/?p=meta-
> > >>arago.git;a=blob;f=meta-
> > >>>>>>>arago-extras/recipes-qt/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.8.4.bb
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Or
> > >>>>>>>Create new recipes with some unique identifier to indicate
> > >>>>this
> > >>>>>>>isn't the standard gstreamer.
> > >>>>>>If not patches one of the above seems right.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Others may have other approaches that they recommend.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-
> > >>>>arago-
> > >>>>>>>>bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > >>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
> > >>>>>>>>To: Hingolikar, Mrinmayee
> > >>>>>>>>Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH 0/5] GStreamer multimedia
> > >>>>>>>framework and
> > >>>>>>>>plugins recipes
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:03:35PM +0530, Mrinmayee
> > >>>>Hingolikar
> > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>This patch-set adds GStreamer framework and its plugins:
> > >>>>>>>>>base, good, bad and ugly.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>The development trees for all of these components are
> > >>>>>>>mainitained at
> > >>>>>>>>>git.ti.com and they are based on top of the Freedesktop
> > >>>>>>>releases.
> > >>>>>>>>Why? How large is the patchset on top of upstream?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Mrinmayee Hingolikar (5):
> > >>>>>>>>> multimedia: Add GStreamer multimedia framework.
> > >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer base plugins
> > >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer good plugins
> > >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer bad plugins
> > >>>>>>>>> multimedia: GStreamer ugly plugins.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad_0.10.23.bbappend |
> > >>>>25
> > >>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-base_0.10.36.bbappend |
> > >>>>22
> > >>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++
> > >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.31.bbappend |
> > >>>>20
> > >>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
> > >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_0.10.18.bb |
> > >>>>23
> > >>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++
> > >>>>>>>>> .../gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbappend |
> > >>>>16
> > >>>>>>>+++++++++++++
> > >>>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 106 insertions(+)
> > >>>>>>>>> create mode 100644
> > >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> > >>>>plugins-
> > >>>>>>>bad_0.10.23
> > >>>>>>>>>.bbappend create mode 100644
> > >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> > >>>>plugins-
> > >>>>>>>base_0.10.3
> > >>>>>>>>>6.bbappend create mode 100644
> > >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> > >>>>plugins-
> > >>>>>>>good_0.10.3
> > >>>>>>>>>1.bbappend create mode 100644
> > >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-
> > >>>>plugins-
> > >>>>>>>ugly_0.10.1
> > >>>>>>>>>8.bb create mode 100644
> > >>>>>>>>>meta-arago-extras/recipes-
> > >>>>>>>multimedia/gstreamer/gstreamer_0.10.36.bbapp
> > >>>>>>>>>end
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>--
> > >>>>>>>>>1.7.9.5
> > >>>>>>>>>
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