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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
To: Anand Avati <aavati@redhat.com>
Cc: eshel@us.ibm.com, Linux NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	nfsv4@ietf.org, nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org,
	Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] XATTRs in NFS
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:36:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131031213630.GA32733@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5272C397.6020201@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:54:47PM -0700, Anand Avati wrote:
> >2. Why are current named attributes in NFS not the right answer.
> 
> I think they might be, if we can map user.XXXX xattrs to named
> attributes and avoid any sort of interpretation of they key/values
> by NFS. Though from my point of view, all I care is for
> getxattr/setxattr of user.XXX keys to "just work" (whether they are
> mapped to named attributes or implemented as a separate feature).

That's an open question.  Are writes to xattrs supposed to be atomic?

Anyways, it seems at least one filesystem (XFS) maps xattrs onto a
hidden data fork (named attribute) for that purpose.  So, I'm guessing:
a) no, they're not atomic, b) named attributes should work... c) if
only we had a namespace to steal names from for this purpose.

Nico
-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-31 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-23 20:37 XATTRs in NFS? Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24  8:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 14:13   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 14:32     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:07       ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-24 15:11         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:16           ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-24 15:23             ` Jeff Layton
2013-10-24 15:29               ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-24 15:53               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 16:10               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 15:27             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 16:01       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 16:30         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 17:22           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-25 14:08             ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-25 15:26               ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-25 15:32                 ` Chuck Lever
2013-10-26 18:00                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-26 13:20                 ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]                   ` <OF01D9818B.36018C0F-ON88257C10.00608BC0-88257C10.006139C6@LocalDomain>
2013-10-26 17:46                     ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-27 12:48                       ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  0:14                         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:19                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  0:23                             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 13:25                         ` James Morris
2013-10-28 15:41                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-26 17:12               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-27 19:15                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-27 21:57                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:17                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  0:27                       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28  0:44                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28  1:04                           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 15:40                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 16:15                             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 17:49                               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 18:00                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 18:08                                   ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2013-10-28 18:31                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 20:44                                       ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 20:49                                         ` [nfsv4] " Spencer Shepler
2013-10-28 20:55                                         ` Haynes, Tom
2013-10-28 21:02                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-28 21:04                                             ` Chuck Lever
2013-10-28 21:28                                               ` Marc Eshel
     [not found]                                               ` <OF3A48E6D9.7BB93CB0-ON88257C12.0075527E-88257C12.0075F065@LocalDomain>
2013-10-28 22:28                                                 ` XATTRs in NFS Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 22:41                                                   ` Marc Eshel
     [not found]                                                     ` <5272742D.7000905@redhat.com>
2013-10-31 20:54                                                       ` Anand Avati
2013-10-31 21:36                                                         ` Nico Williams [this message]
2013-10-28 23:02                                                   ` [nfsv4] " Nico Williams
2013-10-28 21:28                                             ` [nfsv4] XATTRs in NFS? Marc Eshel
     [not found]                                     ` <526EC3F7.3090601@gmail.com>
2013-10-29  0:22                                       ` Fwd: " Anand Avati
2013-10-29  0:39                                         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29  0:53                                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  1:04                                             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29  0:49                                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  1:00                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-29  1:26                                             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  1:24                                               ` Anand Avati
2013-10-29  1:52                                                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  2:22                                                   ` Anand Avati
2013-10-29  1:39                                               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29  2:28                                                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29  4:27                                                   ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 21:34                                   ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-28 18:15                                 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer

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