From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
aswin@hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:01:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131106060132.GB24044@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131105142707.GC30283@krava.brq.redhat.com>
* Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
> > But success primarily depends on how useful the tooling UI turns out
> > to be: create a nice Slang or GTK UI for kprobes and triggers, and/or
> > turn it into a really intuitive command line UI, and people will use
> > it.
> >
> > I think annotated assembly/source output is a really nice match for
> > triggers and kprobes, so I'd suggest the Slang TUI route ...
>
> yep, current toggling command line UI is not much user friendly
>
> but perhaps we should leave it there (because it seems it wont get much
> better anyway) and focus more on Slang UI as the target one..
>
> CCing Arnaldo ;-)
Btw., I think we should do the TUI interface _before_ we can merge the
kernel changes. Frankly, 'not very user friendly' means that it's not used
(and tested) much - which begs the question: why merge the feature at all?
Making a new kernel feature usable to as many people as possible must be a
primary concern, not an afterthought.
Thanks,
Ingo
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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
aswin@hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:01:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131106060132.GB24044@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131105142707.GC30283@krava.brq.redhat.com>
* Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
> > But success primarily depends on how useful the tooling UI turns out
> > to be: create a nice Slang or GTK UI for kprobes and triggers, and/or
> > turn it into a really intuitive command line UI, and people will use
> > it.
> >
> > I think annotated assembly/source output is a really nice match for
> > triggers and kprobes, so I'd suggest the Slang TUI route ...
>
> yep, current toggling command line UI is not much user friendly
>
> but perhaps we should leave it there (because it seems it wont get much
> better anyway) and focus more on Slang UI as the target one..
>
> CCing Arnaldo ;-)
Btw., I think we should do the TUI interface _before_ we can merge the
kernel changes. Frankly, 'not very user friendly' means that it's not used
(and tested) much - which begs the question: why merge the feature at all?
Making a new kernel feature usable to as many people as possible must be a
primary concern, not an afterthought.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-06 6:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-01 20:17 [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 20:17 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 20:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-01 20:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-01 21:11 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 21:11 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-03 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 23:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-03 23:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-04 4:22 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 4:22 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2013-11-01 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2013-11-03 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 4:20 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 4:20 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 4:48 ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma) Al Viro
2013-11-04 4:48 ` Al Viro
2013-11-05 2:49 ` 管雪涛
2013-11-05 2:49 ` 管雪涛
2013-11-11 7:25 ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was " Al Viro
2013-11-11 7:25 ` Al Viro
2013-11-04 7:00 ` [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 14:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 18:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 18:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-05 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05 14:27 ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-05 14:27 ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-06 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-11-06 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:03 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-11-06 14:03 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-11-03 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-03 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04 4:04 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 4:04 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:56 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-04 14:56 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 4:12 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 4:12 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 7:43 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 7:43 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:08 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:08 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 18:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-13 18:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 12:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 12:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 18:24 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 18:24 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 21:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 21:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-04 7:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
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