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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Joseph Schuchart <joseph.schuchart@tu-dresden.de>,
	Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Perf: Correct Assumptions about Sample Timestamps in Passes
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:25:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131114152549.GL16796@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5284E618.6060701@gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 08:02:48AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> On 11/14/13, 7:44 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 07:26:06AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> >>On 11/14/13, 3:05 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>
> >>>What am I missing?
> >>
> >>I have spent quite a bit of time on this problem on this well. I think the
> >>flush time needs to be based on the start time of each round, not the
> >>minimum time observed across mmaps. I have tried the minimum time stamp
> >>route and it still fails often enough to be annoying.
> >>
> >>See builtin-kvm.c, perf_kvm__mmap_read(). The problem is that it takes time
> >>to move from mmap to mmap and sample can come in behind you - an mmap that
> >>has already be scanned with a timestamp less than what is determined to be
> >>the lowest minimum for the samples actually read. 'perf kvm stat live' in a
> >>nested environment is a stress test for the problem.
> >
> >In which case you need the sliding sort window to be n*buf_size, where n
> >is the number of buffers flushed into the one file. Or move to one file
> >per buffer and merge sort the lot, buffers should be monotonic.
> 
> The one file per buffer does not work for live commands -- like perf-top and
> kvm-stat-live. perf-trace is not using the ordered samples code, but I think
> it needs to - especially for system wide.

Why would you need files for live things? Just merge sort the buffers
directly.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-14 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-14  8:07 [PATCH] Perf: Correct Assumptions about Sample Timestamps in Passes Joseph Schuchart
2013-11-14  8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-14  8:59   ` Joseph Schuchart
2013-11-14 10:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-14 14:26       ` David Ahern
2013-11-14 14:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 15:02           ` David Ahern
2013-11-14 15:25             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-11-21 14:55       ` Joseph Schuchart
2013-11-27 13:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 12:27           ` Joseph Schuchart
2013-12-20 17:09             ` David Ahern
2013-12-23 13:10               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-12-23 14:44                 ` David Ahern
2013-12-26 15:14                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-12-26 15:24                     ` David Ahern
2013-12-26 15:30                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-01 18:37                         ` David Ahern
2014-01-03 22:07                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-03 22:45                             ` David Ahern
2014-01-04 15:05                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-08 21:48                                 ` David Ahern
2014-01-09 15:19                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-12 15:46                                     ` David Ahern

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