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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Joseph Schuchart <joseph.schuchart@tu-dresden.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Perf: Correct Assumptions about Sample Timestamps in Passes
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:26:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5284DD7E.30604@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131114100552.GA5064@gmail.com>

On 11/14/13, 3:05 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> What am I missing?

I have spent quite a bit of time on this problem on this well. I think 
the flush time needs to be based on the start time of each round, not 
the minimum time observed across mmaps. I have tried the minimum time 
stamp route and it still fails often enough to be annoying.

See builtin-kvm.c, perf_kvm__mmap_read(). The problem is that it takes 
time to move from mmap to mmap and sample can come in behind you - an 
mmap that has already be scanned with a timestamp less than what is 
determined to be the lowest minimum for the samples actually read. 'perf 
kvm stat live' in a nested environment is a stress test for the problem.

I believe reading perf_clock at the start of each round and using that 
as the flush time will fix the problem (to the degree that perf_clock is 
monotonic across all cpus and sockets).

But, right now we have no means of reading the perf_clock timestamp in 
userspace.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-14 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-14  8:07 [PATCH] Perf: Correct Assumptions about Sample Timestamps in Passes Joseph Schuchart
2013-11-14  8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-14  8:59   ` Joseph Schuchart
2013-11-14 10:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-14 14:26       ` David Ahern [this message]
2013-11-14 14:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-14 15:02           ` David Ahern
2013-11-14 15:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 14:55       ` Joseph Schuchart
2013-11-27 13:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 12:27           ` Joseph Schuchart
2013-12-20 17:09             ` David Ahern
2013-12-23 13:10               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-12-23 14:44                 ` David Ahern
2013-12-26 15:14                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-12-26 15:24                     ` David Ahern
2013-12-26 15:30                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-01 18:37                         ` David Ahern
2014-01-03 22:07                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-03 22:45                             ` David Ahern
2014-01-04 15:05                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-08 21:48                                 ` David Ahern
2014-01-09 15:19                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-01-12 15:46                                     ` David Ahern

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