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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Martin Boutin <martboutin@gmail.com>,
	"Kernel.org-Linux-RAID" <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	"Kernel.org-Linux-EXT4" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Filesystem writes on RAID5 too slow
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:40:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131122224038.GH6502@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131122092136.GD32568@infradead.org>

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 01:21:36AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > The function xfs_bmap_isaeof() is used to indicate that an
> > allocation is occurring at or past the end of file, and as such
> > should be aligned to the underlying storage geometry if possible.
> > 
> > Commit 27a3f8f ("xfs: introduce xfs_bmap_last_extent") changed the
> > behaviour of this function for empty files - it turned off
> > allocation alignment for this case accidentally. Hence large initial
> > allocations from direct IO are not getting correctly aligned to the
> > underlying geometry, and that is cause write performance to drop in
> > alignment sensitive configurations.
> > 
> > Fix it by considering allocation into empty files as requiring
> > aligned allocation again.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> 
> Ooops.  The fix looks good,
> 
> Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
> 
> 
> Might be worth cooking up a test for this, scsi_debug can expose
> geometry, and we already have it wired to to large sector size
> testing in xfstests.

We don't need to screw around with the sector size - that is
irrelevant to the problem, and we have an allocation alignment
test that is supposed to catch these issues: generic/223.

As I said, I have seen occasional failures of that test (once a
month, on average) as a result of this bug. It was simply not often
enough - running in a hard loop didn't increase the frequency of
failures - to be able debug it or to reach my "there's a regression
I need to look at" threshold. Perhaps we need to revisit that test
and see if we can make it more likely to trigger failures...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Martin Boutin <martboutin@gmail.com>,
	"Kernel.org-Linux-RAID" <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	"Kernel.org-Linux-EXT4" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Filesystem writes on RAID5 too slow
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:40:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131122224038.GH6502@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131122092136.GD32568@infradead.org>

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 01:21:36AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > The function xfs_bmap_isaeof() is used to indicate that an
> > allocation is occurring at or past the end of file, and as such
> > should be aligned to the underlying storage geometry if possible.
> > 
> > Commit 27a3f8f ("xfs: introduce xfs_bmap_last_extent") changed the
> > behaviour of this function for empty files - it turned off
> > allocation alignment for this case accidentally. Hence large initial
> > allocations from direct IO are not getting correctly aligned to the
> > underlying geometry, and that is cause write performance to drop in
> > alignment sensitive configurations.
> > 
> > Fix it by considering allocation into empty files as requiring
> > aligned allocation again.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> 
> Ooops.  The fix looks good,
> 
> Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
> 
> 
> Might be worth cooking up a test for this, scsi_debug can expose
> geometry, and we already have it wired to to large sector size
> testing in xfstests.

We don't need to screw around with the sector size - that is
irrelevant to the problem, and we have an allocation alignment
test that is supposed to catch these issues: generic/223.

As I said, I have seen occasional failures of that test (once a
month, on average) as a result of this bug. It was simply not often
enough - running in a hard loop didn't increase the frequency of
failures - to be able debug it or to reach my "there's a regression
I need to look at" threshold. Perhaps we need to revisit that test
and see if we can make it more likely to trigger failures...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-22 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-18 16:02 Filesystem writes on RAID5 too slow Martin Boutin
2013-11-18 18:28 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-11-18 18:28   ` Eric Sandeen
2013-11-19  0:57   ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-21  9:11     ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-21  9:11       ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-21  9:26       ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-21  9:26         ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-21  9:50         ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-21 13:31           ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-21 13:31             ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-21 16:35             ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-21 16:35               ` Martin Boutin
2013-11-22  9:23               ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-21 23:41             ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-21 23:41               ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-22  9:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-22  9:21                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-22 22:40                 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-11-22 22:40                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-23  8:41                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-23  8:41                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-24 23:21                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-24 23:21                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-22 13:33               ` Martin Boutin
2013-12-10 19:18               ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-10 19:18                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-11  0:27                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-11  0:27                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-11 19:09                   ` Ben Myers
2013-11-18 18:41 ` Roman Mamedov
2013-11-18 19:25   ` Roman Mamedov

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