From: Huang Shijie <b32955@freescale.com>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Cc: marex@denx.de, Angus Clark <angus.clark@st.com>,
broonie@linaro.org, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
pekon@ti.com, sourav.poddar@ti.com,
Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mtd: spi-nor: add a new framework for SPI NOR
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:59:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205075901.GA20407@shlinux2.ap.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131205081101.GA4636@norris.computersforpeace.net>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:11:01AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 03:12:25PM +0800, Huang Shijie wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:44:05AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> > >
> > > I mostly bring this up, though, because it is an example of hardware
> > > that
> > >
> > > (a) can operate as a true SPI device (hardware (1) can handle generic
> > > SPI transfers), but
> > > (b) requires knowledge of the details of SPI flash in order to get
> > > optimal usage out of the acceleration from (2).
> > >
> > > In my book, point (a) and (b) hold some bearing over the question of
> > > "where should this SPI NOR framework live", because it is reasonable
> > > that a single driver for this hardware should be able to handle either
> > > true SPI devices or accelerated SPI-NOR flash.
> >
> > We have add a @read_id hook for the spi-nor layer, you can use it to read out
> > more info (such as the Device Geometry Definition) for your spi-nor controller driver.
> >
> > Is it okay?
>
> I'm not sure which @read_id hook you're talking about, as I've only
> skimmed the most recent thread, and it's not in the last patch series I
> have from you, I don't think. But that is not a response at all to the
> points I brought up. My statements have nothing to do with device
> geometry detection.
My meaning is You can write a new driver for the (b) with the new spi-nor layer,
In the new driver you can implement the @read_id yourself, and read out the
the necessary info, and implement other hooks for the so-called peculiarities.
>
> What I was actually addressing:
>
> Your framework aligns with Mark's original suggestion: that the "SPI
> NOR" framework should be a separate layer held entirely within the MTD
> subsystem, and that any given driver is *either* a "SPI NOR" driver *or*
> a "true SPI" driver, not both.
You can only use a SPI-NOR driver, and you can abandon the "true SPI" driver.
Is there some limits that prevent we just code a SPI-NOR driver for your hardware?
thanks
Huang Shijie
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To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mtd: spi-nor: add a new framework for SPI NOR
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:59:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205075901.GA20407@shlinux2.ap.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131205081101.GA4636-7ciq9WCbhwJWVhifINYOO1poFGfAdsVx5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:11:01AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 03:12:25PM +0800, Huang Shijie wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:44:05AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> > >
> > > I mostly bring this up, though, because it is an example of hardware
> > > that
> > >
> > > (a) can operate as a true SPI device (hardware (1) can handle generic
> > > SPI transfers), but
> > > (b) requires knowledge of the details of SPI flash in order to get
> > > optimal usage out of the acceleration from (2).
> > >
> > > In my book, point (a) and (b) hold some bearing over the question of
> > > "where should this SPI NOR framework live", because it is reasonable
> > > that a single driver for this hardware should be able to handle either
> > > true SPI devices or accelerated SPI-NOR flash.
> >
> > We have add a @read_id hook for the spi-nor layer, you can use it to read out
> > more info (such as the Device Geometry Definition) for your spi-nor controller driver.
> >
> > Is it okay?
>
> I'm not sure which @read_id hook you're talking about, as I've only
> skimmed the most recent thread, and it's not in the last patch series I
> have from you, I don't think. But that is not a response at all to the
> points I brought up. My statements have nothing to do with device
> geometry detection.
My meaning is You can write a new driver for the (b) with the new spi-nor layer,
In the new driver you can implement the @read_id yourself, and read out the
the necessary info, and implement other hooks for the so-called peculiarities.
>
> What I was actually addressing:
>
> Your framework aligns with Mark's original suggestion: that the "SPI
> NOR" framework should be a separate layer held entirely within the MTD
> subsystem, and that any given driver is *either* a "SPI NOR" driver *or*
> a "true SPI" driver, not both.
You can only use a SPI-NOR driver, and you can abandon the "true SPI" driver.
Is there some limits that prevent we just code a SPI-NOR driver for your hardware?
thanks
Huang Shijie
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From: b32955@freescale.com (Huang Shijie)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/4] mtd: spi-nor: add a new framework for SPI NOR
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:59:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205075901.GA20407@shlinux2.ap.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131205081101.GA4636@norris.computersforpeace.net>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:11:01AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 03:12:25PM +0800, Huang Shijie wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:44:05AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> > >
> > > I mostly bring this up, though, because it is an example of hardware
> > > that
> > >
> > > (a) can operate as a true SPI device (hardware (1) can handle generic
> > > SPI transfers), but
> > > (b) requires knowledge of the details of SPI flash in order to get
> > > optimal usage out of the acceleration from (2).
> > >
> > > In my book, point (a) and (b) hold some bearing over the question of
> > > "where should this SPI NOR framework live", because it is reasonable
> > > that a single driver for this hardware should be able to handle either
> > > true SPI devices or accelerated SPI-NOR flash.
> >
> > We have add a @read_id hook for the spi-nor layer, you can use it to read out
> > more info (such as the Device Geometry Definition) for your spi-nor controller driver.
> >
> > Is it okay?
>
> I'm not sure which @read_id hook you're talking about, as I've only
> skimmed the most recent thread, and it's not in the last patch series I
> have from you, I don't think. But that is not a response at all to the
> points I brought up. My statements have nothing to do with device
> geometry detection.
My meaning is You can write a new driver for the (b) with the new spi-nor layer,
In the new driver you can implement the @read_id yourself, and read out the
the necessary info, and implement other hooks for the so-called peculiarities.
>
> What I was actually addressing:
>
> Your framework aligns with Mark's original suggestion: that the "SPI
> NOR" framework should be a separate layer held entirely within the MTD
> subsystem, and that any given driver is *either* a "SPI NOR" driver *or*
> a "true SPI" driver, not both.
You can only use a SPI-NOR driver, and you can abandon the "true SPI" driver.
Is there some limits that prevent we just code a SPI-NOR driver for your hardware?
thanks
Huang Shijie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-05 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-26 6:32 [PATCH 0/4] mtd: spi-nor: add a new framework for SPI NOR Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 6:32 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 6:32 ` [PATCH 1/4] mtd: spi-nor: move the SPI NOR commands to a new header file Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 6:32 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 7:42 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-11-26 7:42 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-11-26 8:53 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 8:53 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 14:48 ` Angus Clark
2013-11-26 14:48 ` Angus Clark
2013-11-26 6:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] mtd: spi-nor: add a new data structrue spi_nor{} Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 6:32 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 11:42 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-11-26 11:42 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-11-27 4:35 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 4:35 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 9:32 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 9:32 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 10:24 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 10:24 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 10:27 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 10:27 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-26 6:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] mtd: spi-nor: add the framework for SPI NOR Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 6:32 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 10:03 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-11-26 10:03 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-11-27 9:39 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 9:39 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-26 6:32 ` [PATCH 4/4] mtd: m25p80: use the new spi-nor APIs Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 6:32 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-26 12:57 ` [PATCH 0/4] mtd: spi-nor: add a new framework for SPI NOR Angus Clark
2013-11-26 12:57 ` Angus Clark
2013-11-27 4:32 ` Brian Norris
2013-11-27 4:32 ` Brian Norris
2013-11-27 4:32 ` Brian Norris
2013-11-27 4:39 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 4:39 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 4:39 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-29 14:52 ` Angus Clark
2013-11-29 14:52 ` Angus Clark
2013-11-29 14:52 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-02 10:06 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-02 10:06 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-02 10:06 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-02 11:01 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-02 11:01 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-02 11:01 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-02 11:19 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-02 11:19 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-03 6:20 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 6:20 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 6:20 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 8:23 ` Lee Jones
2013-12-03 8:23 ` Lee Jones
2013-12-03 8:23 ` Lee Jones
2013-12-10 8:25 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-10 8:25 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-10 8:25 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-10 10:00 ` Lee Jones
2013-12-10 10:00 ` Lee Jones
2013-12-10 10:00 ` Lee Jones
2013-12-03 0:32 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 0:32 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 0:32 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 10:36 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 10:36 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 10:36 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 14:51 ` David Woodhouse
2013-12-03 14:51 ` David Woodhouse
2013-12-03 14:51 ` David Woodhouse
2013-12-04 18:44 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-04 18:44 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-04 18:44 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-05 7:12 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 7:12 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 7:12 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 8:11 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-05 8:11 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-05 8:11 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-05 7:59 ` Huang Shijie [this message]
2013-12-05 7:59 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 7:59 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 9:20 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-05 9:20 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-05 9:20 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-06 3:07 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-06 3:07 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-06 3:07 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 14:35 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-05 14:35 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-05 14:35 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-06 8:18 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-06 8:18 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-06 8:18 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-10 9:08 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-10 9:08 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-10 9:08 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-04 2:46 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-04 2:46 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-04 2:46 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-04 6:58 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-04 6:58 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-04 6:58 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-04 7:19 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-04 7:19 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-04 7:19 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-04 8:21 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-04 8:21 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-04 8:21 ` Angus Clark
2013-12-04 15:36 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-04 15:36 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-04 15:36 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-05 2:42 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 2:42 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 2:42 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 5:43 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-05 5:43 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-05 5:43 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-12-05 7:33 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 7:33 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-05 7:33 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 9:27 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 9:27 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 9:47 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-11-27 9:47 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-11-27 10:06 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 10:06 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 10:56 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-11-27 10:56 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-02 23:59 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-02 23:59 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 10:01 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 10:01 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 13:42 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 13:42 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 13:50 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 13:50 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 14:19 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 14:19 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 14:31 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 14:31 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 15:09 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 15:09 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 15:16 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 15:16 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-12-03 15:35 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 15:35 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 15:23 ` David Woodhouse
2013-12-03 15:23 ` David Woodhouse
2013-12-03 18:28 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-03 18:28 ` Brian Norris
2013-12-03 23:41 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 23:41 ` Marek Vasut
2013-11-27 10:19 ` Huang Shijie
2013-11-27 10:19 ` Huang Shijie
2013-12-03 0:00 ` Marek Vasut
2013-12-03 0:00 ` Marek Vasut
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