From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Salter <msalter-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] arm64: add EFI stub
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:28:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205152806.GC974@darko.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386254603.1861.120.camel-PDpCo7skNiwAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 02:43:23PM +0000, Mark Salter wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 14:18 +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05:10PM +0000, Mark Salter wrote:
> > > This patch adds PE/COFF header fields to the start of the Image
> > > so that it appears as an EFI application to EFI firmware. An EFI
> > > stub is included to allow direct booting of the kernel Image. Due
> > > to EFI firmware limitations, only little endian kernels with 4K
> > > page sizes are supported at this time.
> >
> > I don't fully understand the EFI firmware limitations but for big endian
> > we could have the EFI_STUB wrapper in little endian and get the kernel
> > to switch to big endian once booted. The image header should always be
> > little endian.
>
> That would be fun. :) You'd also have to switch back and forth to make
> EFI runtime services calls.
OK, we'll have to live with this restriction.
> > And I have to dig further into the 4K limitation (or you could give a
> > quick summary ;)).
>
> Just that the current UEFI spec mandates 4K pages for UEFI. So if UEFI
> maps two 4k pages with different attributes and those two pages are
> within the same 64k kernel page, there'd be a problem. I'd be better if
> UEFI used 64k pages, then the kernel could easily use 4k or 64k.
For server space, we may see some people asking for 64K pages. But I
don't know whether there are any UEFI plans here.
Thanks.
--
Catalin
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/3] arm64: add EFI stub
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:28:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205152806.GC974@darko.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386254603.1861.120.camel@deneb.redhat.com>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 02:43:23PM +0000, Mark Salter wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 14:18 +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05:10PM +0000, Mark Salter wrote:
> > > This patch adds PE/COFF header fields to the start of the Image
> > > so that it appears as an EFI application to EFI firmware. An EFI
> > > stub is included to allow direct booting of the kernel Image. Due
> > > to EFI firmware limitations, only little endian kernels with 4K
> > > page sizes are supported at this time.
> >
> > I don't fully understand the EFI firmware limitations but for big endian
> > we could have the EFI_STUB wrapper in little endian and get the kernel
> > to switch to big endian once booted. The image header should always be
> > little endian.
>
> That would be fun. :) You'd also have to switch back and forth to make
> EFI runtime services calls.
OK, we'll have to live with this restriction.
> > And I have to dig further into the 4K limitation (or you could give a
> > quick summary ;)).
>
> Just that the current UEFI spec mandates 4K pages for UEFI. So if UEFI
> maps two 4k pages with different attributes and those two pages are
> within the same 64k kernel page, there'd be a problem. I'd be better if
> UEFI used 64k pages, then the kernel could easily use 4k or 64k.
For server space, we may see some people asking for 64K pages. But I
don't know whether there are any UEFI plans here.
Thanks.
--
Catalin
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Mark Salter <msalter@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"patches@linaro.org" <patches@linaro.org>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"matt.fleming@intel.com" <matt.fleming@intel.com>,
"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
"roy.franz@linaro.org" <roy.franz@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] arm64: add EFI stub
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:28:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205152806.GC974@darko.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386254603.1861.120.camel@deneb.redhat.com>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 02:43:23PM +0000, Mark Salter wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 14:18 +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05:10PM +0000, Mark Salter wrote:
> > > This patch adds PE/COFF header fields to the start of the Image
> > > so that it appears as an EFI application to EFI firmware. An EFI
> > > stub is included to allow direct booting of the kernel Image. Due
> > > to EFI firmware limitations, only little endian kernels with 4K
> > > page sizes are supported at this time.
> >
> > I don't fully understand the EFI firmware limitations but for big endian
> > we could have the EFI_STUB wrapper in little endian and get the kernel
> > to switch to big endian once booted. The image header should always be
> > little endian.
>
> That would be fun. :) You'd also have to switch back and forth to make
> EFI runtime services calls.
OK, we'll have to live with this restriction.
> > And I have to dig further into the 4K limitation (or you could give a
> > quick summary ;)).
>
> Just that the current UEFI spec mandates 4K pages for UEFI. So if UEFI
> maps two 4k pages with different attributes and those two pages are
> within the same 64k kernel page, there'd be a problem. I'd be better if
> UEFI used 64k pages, then the kernel could easily use 4k or 64k.
For server space, we may see some people asking for 64K pages. But I
don't know whether there are any UEFI plans here.
Thanks.
--
Catalin
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-29 22:05 [PATCH 0/3] arm64: Add EFI stub and runtime services support Mark Salter
2013-11-29 22:05 ` Mark Salter
[not found] ` < 1385762712-17043-2-git-send-email-msalter@redhat.com>
2013-11-29 22:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] arm64: add EFI stub Mark Salter
2013-11-29 22:05 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-03 18:38 ` Will Deacon
2013-12-03 18:38 ` Will Deacon
2013-12-03 18:38 ` Will Deacon
2013-12-03 19:31 ` Roy Franz
2013-12-03 19:31 ` Roy Franz
[not found] ` <20131203183844.GA22668-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-03 19:31 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-03 19:31 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-03 19:31 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-05 14:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 14:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 14:18 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <20131205141853.GA974-rtzwXk+D4rEjOxct69p1ducL+3YJyIBv@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 14:43 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-05 14:43 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-05 14:43 ` Mark Salter
[not found] ` <1386254603.1861.120.camel-PDpCo7skNiwAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 15:28 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2013-12-05 15:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 15:28 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` < 20131205152806.GC974@darko.cambridge.arm.com>
[not found] ` <20131205152806.GC974-rtzwXk+D4rEjOxct69p1ducL+3YJyIBv@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-06 12:25 ` Grant Likely
2013-12-06 12:25 ` Grant Likely
2013-12-06 12:25 ` Grant Likely
2013-12-06 13:34 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 13:34 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 13:38 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-12-06 13:38 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-12-06 13:38 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-12-06 13:51 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 13:51 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 13:51 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 14:55 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 14:55 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 14:55 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-16 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-16 15:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-06 12:12 ` Grant Likely
2013-12-06 12:12 ` Grant Likely
2013-12-06 12:12 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <1385762712-17043-1-git-send-email-msalter-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-29 22:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] doc: arm64: add description of EFI stub support Mark Salter
2013-11-29 22:05 ` Mark Salter
2013-11-29 22:05 ` Mark Salter
2013-11-29 22:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: add EFI runtime services Mark Salter
2013-11-29 22:05 ` Mark Salter
[not found] ` <1385762712-17043-4-git-send-email-msalter-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <20131205152510.GB974-rtzwXk+D4rEjOxct69p1ducL+3YJyIBv@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 15:52 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-05 15:52 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-05 15:52 ` Mark Salter
[not found] ` <1386258761.1861.137.camel-PDpCo7skNiwAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 15:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 15:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-05 15:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-06 14:34 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 14:34 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-06 14:34 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-09 13:52 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-12-09 13:52 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-12-09 13:52 ` Leif Lindholm
[not found] ` <20131209135158.GH24997-GZEopFhza0F985/tl1ce8aaDwS/vmuI7@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 17:58 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-10 17:58 ` Mark Salter
2013-12-10 17:58 ` Mark Salter
[not found] ` < 1385762712-17043-3-git-send-email-msalter@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <1385762712-17043-3-git-send-email-msalter-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 12:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] doc: arm64: add description of EFI stub support Grant Likely
2013-12-05 12:53 ` Grant Likely
2013-12-05 12:53 ` Grant Likely
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