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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH?] uprobes: change uprobe_write_opcode() to modify the page directly
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:45:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205184550.GA28159@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131205174923.GE14407@pd.tnic>

On 12/05, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 06:23:55PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > This is almost off-topic, but I am wondering if (in the long term) we
> > can avoid this "insert the bp into every mm" altogether.
> >
> > Instead, uprobe_write_opcode() should only unmap this page and set
>
> Ok, sorry if I'm completely off base here but have you guys tried
> unmapping the page from all other VMs,

This is what I meant, but we can't simply clear this pte,

> and causing all
> the VMs to refault

why? it would be better to install the page on demand.

> patching you'd probably need to cause the #PF handler to "loop" until
> patching is complete though.

We can't do this, but I do not think we need to block #PF handler.

However, somehow the #PF handler should know that it should install
the patched page owned by uprobes. That is why I talked about
SWP_UPROBE_ENTRY (or something similar)

But again, in any case this is not trivial.

And perhaps I misundestood you... If you actually want to cause
all the VMs to refault, then why we can't unmap + refault every
mm like the patch I sent does? Just in case, note that we can't
share the same page anyway without more complications.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-05 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26  0:37 [PATCH] Add a text_poke syscall v2 Andi Kleen
2013-11-26 19:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-11-26 19:11   ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-26 20:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 19:57     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:02       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:21         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-11-27 22:21         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 22:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:25           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:29             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 22:31               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:04                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 23:13                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 22:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:10                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 23:20                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:40                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 23:47                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 22:53           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:15             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 23:28               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-28  2:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-28  2:10                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-28  9:12                   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-11-27 23:44               ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-29 18:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 19:54   ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-29 20:05     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 20:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-29 20:35         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 21:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-30 14:56             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 23:24       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-11-30  0:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-03 18:49           ` [PATCH?] uprobes: change uprobe_write_opcode() to modify the page directly Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 19:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-03 19:20               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 20:01                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 20:21                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 20:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 20:43                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 20:54                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 22:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-03 23:47                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-04 11:30                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 11:11                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 16:01                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-04 16:48                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 16:54                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-04 17:15                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-04 17:43                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-05 17:23                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-05 17:49                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-05 18:45                                             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-12-04 18:32                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-05  8:28                                       ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2013-12-03 22:42                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 19:53               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30 15:20         ` [PATCH] Add a text_poke syscall v2 Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30 16:51         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30 17:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30  5:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-30 14:52         ` Oleg Nesterov

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