From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC part1 PATCH 1/7] ACPI: Make ACPI core running without PCI on ARM64
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:00:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201312102100.20570.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131210192217.GI11468@sirena.org.uk>
On Tuesday 10 December 2013, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 04:28:52AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 09 December 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> > > People are trying to deploy ACPI-based embedded x86, and most of the
> > > ACPI/DT integration discussion seems to have been based on the idea that
> > > this is a worthwhile thing to support. If we're not interested in doing
> > > so then we should probably make that a whole kernel decision rather than
> > > a per architecture one.
>
> > Well, except it's not an architecture independent decision. An embedded
> > x86 SoC will still be very much like a PC, just with a few things added
> > in and some other bits left out, and you can already describe it mostly
>
> It's not just the SoC, it's also the rest of the board. The patches the
> Intel guys are submitting at the minute are mainly for the off-SoC
> devices at least as far as I noticed. This'll impact anyone who ends up
> using ACPI, we need to at least pay attention to what's going on there.
Yes, but I'm not that worried about off-soc stuff, which tends to be
off the much simpler variety: a few MMIO or PIO registers, IRQs,
GPIOs or (with ACPI-5.0) devices on i2c and spi buses.
> > with plain ACPI-5.0. Also, there are only a couple of different non-PC style
> > devices that Intel is integrating into their SoCs, so we're talking
> > about a few dozen device drivers here.
>
> It's going to be way more than that for the whole system, and you can't
> assume that all the system integrators are going to pay a blind bit of
> notice to the reference designs. Some will just clone them but others
> will bin them and do their own thing.
They won't be able to change the on-chip components for obvious reasons.
Arnd
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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC part1 PATCH 1/7] ACPI: Make ACPI core running without PCI on ARM64
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:00:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201312102100.20570.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131210192217.GI11468@sirena.org.uk>
On Tuesday 10 December 2013, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 04:28:52AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 09 December 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> > > People are trying to deploy ACPI-based embedded x86, and most of the
> > > ACPI/DT integration discussion seems to have been based on the idea that
> > > this is a worthwhile thing to support. If we're not interested in doing
> > > so then we should probably make that a whole kernel decision rather than
> > > a per architecture one.
>
> > Well, except it's not an architecture independent decision. An embedded
> > x86 SoC will still be very much like a PC, just with a few things added
> > in and some other bits left out, and you can already describe it mostly
>
> It's not just the SoC, it's also the rest of the board. The patches the
> Intel guys are submitting at the minute are mainly for the off-SoC
> devices at least as far as I noticed. This'll impact anyone who ends up
> using ACPI, we need to at least pay attention to what's going on there.
Yes, but I'm not that worried about off-soc stuff, which tends to be
off the much simpler variety: a few MMIO or PIO registers, IRQs,
GPIOs or (with ACPI-5.0) devices on i2c and spi buses.
> > with plain ACPI-5.0. Also, there are only a couple of different non-PC style
> > devices that Intel is integrating into their SoCs, so we're talking
> > about a few dozen device drivers here.
>
> It's going to be way more than that for the whole system, and you can't
> assume that all the system integrators are going to pay a blind bit of
> notice to the reference designs. Some will just clone them but others
> will bin them and do their own thing.
They won't be able to change the on-chip components for obvious reasons.
Arnd
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"patches@linaro.org" <patches@linaro.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Tomasz Nowicki <tomasz.nowicki@linaro.org>,
"linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org>,
"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>,
Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC part1 PATCH 1/7] ACPI: Make ACPI core running without PCI on ARM64
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:00:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201312102100.20570.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131210192217.GI11468@sirena.org.uk>
On Tuesday 10 December 2013, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 04:28:52AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 09 December 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> > > People are trying to deploy ACPI-based embedded x86, and most of the
> > > ACPI/DT integration discussion seems to have been based on the idea that
> > > this is a worthwhile thing to support. If we're not interested in doing
> > > so then we should probably make that a whole kernel decision rather than
> > > a per architecture one.
>
> > Well, except it's not an architecture independent decision. An embedded
> > x86 SoC will still be very much like a PC, just with a few things added
> > in and some other bits left out, and you can already describe it mostly
>
> It's not just the SoC, it's also the rest of the board. The patches the
> Intel guys are submitting at the minute are mainly for the off-SoC
> devices at least as far as I noticed. This'll impact anyone who ends up
> using ACPI, we need to at least pay attention to what's going on there.
Yes, but I'm not that worried about off-soc stuff, which tends to be
off the much simpler variety: a few MMIO or PIO registers, IRQs,
GPIOs or (with ACPI-5.0) devices on i2c and spi buses.
> > with plain ACPI-5.0. Also, there are only a couple of different non-PC style
> > devices that Intel is integrating into their SoCs, so we're talking
> > about a few dozen device drivers here.
>
> It's going to be way more than that for the whole system, and you can't
> assume that all the system integrators are going to pay a blind bit of
> notice to the reference designs. Some will just clone them but others
> will bin them and do their own thing.
They won't be able to change the on-chip components for obvious reasons.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 20:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-03 16:36 [RFC part1 PATCH 0/7] Make ACPI core running on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 1/7] ACPI: Make ACPI core running without PCI " Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-03 16:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-04 14:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:08 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 22:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 22:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 22:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-06 15:04 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Tomasz Nowicki
2013-12-06 15:04 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2013-12-06 17:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-06 17:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-06 17:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 4:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 4:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 4:12 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 11:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 11:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 13:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 13:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 13:05 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 16:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 16:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 16:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 16:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 17:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 17:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-09 18:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-09 18:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-16 20:51 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-16 20:51 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-17 11:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-17 11:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-19 11:30 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-19 11:30 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-19 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-19 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-19 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-19 15:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-19 15:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-12-20 19:55 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-20 19:55 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 2:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-10 2:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-09 17:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-09 17:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-10 1:52 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-10 1:52 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-10 3:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 3:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 3:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2013-12-10 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-11 3:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-11 3:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-11 3:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-11 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-11 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-11 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 9:56 ` Linus Walleij
2013-12-10 9:56 ` Linus Walleij
2013-12-09 23:34 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-09 23:34 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-09 23:34 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-03 16:47 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 16:47 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-04 14:15 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:15 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 2/7] ARM64 : Add dummy asm/cpu.h Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 17:13 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-03 17:13 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-03 17:13 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-04 15:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 17:59 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-03 17:59 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 3/7] ACPI / processor_core: Rework _PDC related stuff to make it more arch-independent Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-03 16:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-04 14:11 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:11 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:51 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 16:51 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 16:51 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 17:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-03 17:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-04 14:16 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:16 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:16 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 4/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce the skeleton of _PDC related for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:53 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 16:53 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 16:53 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-04 14:17 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:17 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 17:12 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-03 17:12 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-04 14:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 14:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 5/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce arm_core.c and its related head file Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 18:03 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-03 18:03 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-03 18:03 ` Mark Rutland
2013-12-04 15:48 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:48 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:48 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 5:46 ` Zheng, Lv
2013-12-04 5:46 ` Zheng, Lv
2013-12-04 15:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 19:47 ` Al Stone
2013-12-04 19:47 ` Al Stone
2013-12-04 19:47 ` Al Stone
2013-12-05 3:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 3:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 13:51 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 13:51 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 20:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 20:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 20:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 14:09 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-05 14:09 ` Rob Herring
2013-12-05 14:27 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 14:27 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 14:27 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 6/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce lowlevel suspend function Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 7/7] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2013-12-03 16:36 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 10:10 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-04 10:10 ` Graeme Gregory
2013-12-04 15:55 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:55 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-04 15:55 ` Hanjun Guo
2013-12-05 22:25 ` [RFC part1 PATCH 0/7] Make ACPI core running on ARM64 Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-05 22:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-06 13:58 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-06 13:58 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-06 13:58 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-08 2:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-08 2:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-08 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-08 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-08 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-12-10 9:45 ` Linus Walleij
2013-12-10 9:45 ` Linus Walleij
2013-12-10 9:45 ` Linus Walleij
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