From: Andrei Gherzan <andrei@gherzan.ro>
To: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org,
openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: Piglit in Poky
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 13:25:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140103112512.GA30264@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l9pfvj$rqa$1@ger.gmane.org>
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
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> Philip Balister schreef op 28-12-13 23:33:
> > On 12/28/2013 10:28 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
> >> Paul Eggleton schreef op 28-12-13 12:48:
> >>> Hi Koen,
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday 24 December 2013 15:22:32 Koen Kooi wrote:
> >>>> Burton, Ross schreef op 23-12-13 19:01:
> >>>>> We'd like to integrate Piglit (an OpenGL test suite) into Poky
> >>>>> so that we can run automated QA on the GL stack. Piglit is
> >>>>> currently residing in meta-oe, but as Poky is a self-contained
> >>>>> project we can't just add meta-oe to it: apart from the size of
> >>>>> meta-oe, we can't ensure stability if meta-oe makes incompatible
> >>>>> changes that affect Poky.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Piglit isn't a stand-alone package, there are the dependencies
> >>>>> of waffle, python-mako and python-numpy to consider too. There
> >>>>> are two possibilities I can see:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Move piglit and deps to oe-core. Piglit is for QA purposes
> >>>>> only and pushes the boundaries of "core platform". In a sense
> >>>>> this is a repeat of the discussion we had with Midori... does
> >>>>> oe-core contain everything needed to sufficiently exercise the
> >>>>> core components it ships or not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) Add piglit and deps to meta-yocto. Probably a new layer
> >>>>> called meta-yocto-qa (or similar) because the Yocto Compatible
> >>>>> guidelines forbid mixing distribution policy and recipes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Speaking of layers, can you *please* rename meta-yocto to
> >>>> meta-poky? It's what it's actually is and would remove a lot of
> >>>> confusion when trying to explain that yocto is not a distro, even
> >>>> if the distro layer is called 'meta-yocto'.
> >>
> >>> This is a tangent, but a couple of points:
> >>
> >>> 1) This rename would not come for free. We'd need to update people's
> >>> existing bblayers.conf files on the fly, as we did when
> >>> meta-yocto-bsp was split out of meta-yocto, and thus bump
> >>> LCONF_VERSION; however, doing this only in poky has resulted in
> >>> annoying problems when users remove poky from their configurations
> >>> (since LCONF_VERSION is out-of-step between Poky and OE-Core, leading
> >>> to confusing errors in this situation). Thus I think we'd want to
> >>> solve this once and for all by bumping the value in OE-Core as well
> >>> as Poky.
> >>
> >>> 2) If you propose this rename, perhaps you will also consider
> >>> renaming meta-oe, since that name within a similarly named
> >>> meta-openembedded repository leads to a similar level of
> >>> confusion...?
> >>
> >> I have no problems with renaming that layer since I get confused by
> >> this a few times a week myself :)
> >
> > What would we we rename it to?
>
> I'm very tempted to suggest 'meta-yocto'
>
I definitely find meta-yocto a better option here. It would save me from
some confusion when talking about yocto to other people.
Related to meta-oe, even if that would be a smaller problem, I think
meta-openembedded is a better name for that layer too.
--
Andrei Gherzan
m: +40.744.478.414 | f: +40.31.816.28.12
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From: Andrei Gherzan <andrei@gherzan.ro>
To: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org,
openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [OE-core] Piglit in Poky
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 13:25:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140103112512.GA30264@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l9pfvj$rqa$1@ger.gmane.org>
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
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> Philip Balister schreef op 28-12-13 23:33:
> > On 12/28/2013 10:28 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
> >> Paul Eggleton schreef op 28-12-13 12:48:
> >>> Hi Koen,
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday 24 December 2013 15:22:32 Koen Kooi wrote:
> >>>> Burton, Ross schreef op 23-12-13 19:01:
> >>>>> We'd like to integrate Piglit (an OpenGL test suite) into Poky
> >>>>> so that we can run automated QA on the GL stack. Piglit is
> >>>>> currently residing in meta-oe, but as Poky is a self-contained
> >>>>> project we can't just add meta-oe to it: apart from the size of
> >>>>> meta-oe, we can't ensure stability if meta-oe makes incompatible
> >>>>> changes that affect Poky.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Piglit isn't a stand-alone package, there are the dependencies
> >>>>> of waffle, python-mako and python-numpy to consider too. There
> >>>>> are two possibilities I can see:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Move piglit and deps to oe-core. Piglit is for QA purposes
> >>>>> only and pushes the boundaries of "core platform". In a sense
> >>>>> this is a repeat of the discussion we had with Midori... does
> >>>>> oe-core contain everything needed to sufficiently exercise the
> >>>>> core components it ships or not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) Add piglit and deps to meta-yocto. Probably a new layer
> >>>>> called meta-yocto-qa (or similar) because the Yocto Compatible
> >>>>> guidelines forbid mixing distribution policy and recipes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Speaking of layers, can you *please* rename meta-yocto to
> >>>> meta-poky? It's what it's actually is and would remove a lot of
> >>>> confusion when trying to explain that yocto is not a distro, even
> >>>> if the distro layer is called 'meta-yocto'.
> >>
> >>> This is a tangent, but a couple of points:
> >>
> >>> 1) This rename would not come for free. We'd need to update people's
> >>> existing bblayers.conf files on the fly, as we did when
> >>> meta-yocto-bsp was split out of meta-yocto, and thus bump
> >>> LCONF_VERSION; however, doing this only in poky has resulted in
> >>> annoying problems when users remove poky from their configurations
> >>> (since LCONF_VERSION is out-of-step between Poky and OE-Core, leading
> >>> to confusing errors in this situation). Thus I think we'd want to
> >>> solve this once and for all by bumping the value in OE-Core as well
> >>> as Poky.
> >>
> >>> 2) If you propose this rename, perhaps you will also consider
> >>> renaming meta-oe, since that name within a similarly named
> >>> meta-openembedded repository leads to a similar level of
> >>> confusion...?
> >>
> >> I have no problems with renaming that layer since I get confused by
> >> this a few times a week myself :)
> >
> > What would we we rename it to?
>
> I'm very tempted to suggest 'meta-yocto'
>
I definitely find meta-yocto a better option here. It would save me from
some confusion when talking about yocto to other people.
Related to meta-oe, even if that would be a smaller problem, I think
meta-openembedded is a better name for that layer too.
--
Andrei Gherzan
m: +40.744.478.414 | f: +40.31.816.28.12
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-03 11:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-23 18:01 Piglit in Poky Burton, Ross
2013-12-24 1:09 ` Philip Balister
2013-12-24 1:09 ` [OE-core] " Philip Balister
2013-12-24 10:50 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
2013-12-24 10:50 ` [OE-core] " Martin Jansa
2013-12-24 10:50 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-06 11:22 ` [oe] " Paul Eggleton
2014-01-06 11:22 ` [OE-core] " Paul Eggleton
2013-12-28 11:41 ` Paul Eggleton
2013-12-28 11:41 ` [OE-core] " Paul Eggleton
2014-01-08 16:09 ` Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 16:09 ` [OE-core] " Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 16:27 ` [poky] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-08 16:27 ` [poky] [OE-core] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-08 16:27 ` Martin Jansa
2014-01-08 17:01 ` Richard Purdie
2014-01-08 17:01 ` [OE-core] " Richard Purdie
2014-01-08 17:01 ` Richard Purdie
2014-01-08 17:14 ` Nicolas Dechesne
2014-01-08 17:14 ` [OE-core] " Nicolas Dechesne
2014-01-08 18:44 ` Philip Balister
2014-01-08 18:44 ` [OE-core] " Philip Balister
2014-01-08 19:46 ` Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 19:46 ` [OE-core] " Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 19:46 ` Burton, Ross
2014-01-08 21:14 ` [oe] " Otavio Salvador
2014-01-08 21:14 ` [OE-core] " Otavio Salvador
2013-12-24 14:22 ` Koen Kooi
2013-12-28 11:48 ` Paul Eggleton
2013-12-28 11:48 ` [OE-core] " Paul Eggleton
2013-12-28 15:28 ` Koen Kooi
2013-12-28 22:33 ` Philip Balister
2013-12-28 22:33 ` [OE-core] " Philip Balister
2013-12-29 15:44 ` Koen Kooi
2014-01-03 11:25 ` Andrei Gherzan [this message]
2014-01-03 11:25 ` [OE-core] " Andrei Gherzan
2014-01-03 13:26 ` [oe] " Paul Eggleton
2014-01-03 13:26 ` [OE-core] " Paul Eggleton
2014-01-03 13:37 ` [oe] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-03 13:37 ` [OE-core] " Martin Jansa
2014-01-03 13:50 ` [oe] " Paul Eggleton
2014-01-03 13:50 ` [OE-core] " Paul Eggleton
2014-01-03 15:06 ` [oe] " Andrei Gherzan
2014-01-03 15:06 ` [OE-core] " Andrei Gherzan
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