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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni
	<thomas.petazzoni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Ezequiel Garcia
	<ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Gregory CLEMENT
	<gregory.clement-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth
	<sebastian.hesselbarth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] ARM: mvebu: Add support to get the ID and the revision of a SoC
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 00:51:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140105235155.GB4093@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201401052017.10982.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:17:10PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sunday 05 January 2014, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > That would be rather odd. These nodes are in the top level SoC dtsi
> > file. When they are not used, they have status = "disabled" and are in
> > the dtb blob with this state.
> > 
> > The only reason i can think of them not being present at all is if
> > somebody adds an optimizer to dtc which removed disabled nodes. What
> > does the device tree spec say about that? Are we relying on undefined
> > dtc behavior?
> 
> There is no requirement to use the include files. If someone decides
> to ship a default dtb file in their boot loader, it wouldn't be
> a bug to leave the nodes out entirely.

Hum, yes, interesting.

This raises the question, should mainline try to support any random
dtb blob, or only those that have ever shipped with mainline?

There are some older mainline DT blobs which won't have PCIe in them,
since PCIe support was not there day 1. So returning -ENODEV, and the
i2c controller assuming an A0 would make sense.

But what should we do if somebody was to boot linux with a FreeBSD DT
blob? It is a valid blob, it describes the hardware, but the FreeBSD
nodes have different compatibility strings, don't have clocks, etc.
Now that is at the extreme of the range, but where do we put the
marker for compatibility in this range from current mainline blobs to
FreeBSD blobs?

Andrew

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: andrew@lunn.ch (Andrew Lunn)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/2] ARM: mvebu: Add support to get the ID and the revision of a SoC
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 00:51:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140105235155.GB4093@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201401052017.10982.arnd@arndb.de>

On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:17:10PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sunday 05 January 2014, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > That would be rather odd. These nodes are in the top level SoC dtsi
> > file. When they are not used, they have status = "disabled" and are in
> > the dtb blob with this state.
> > 
> > The only reason i can think of them not being present at all is if
> > somebody adds an optimizer to dtc which removed disabled nodes. What
> > does the device tree spec say about that? Are we relying on undefined
> > dtc behavior?
> 
> There is no requirement to use the include files. If someone decides
> to ship a default dtb file in their boot loader, it wouldn't be
> a bug to leave the nodes out entirely.

Hum, yes, interesting.

This raises the question, should mainline try to support any random
dtb blob, or only those that have ever shipped with mainline?

There are some older mainline DT blobs which won't have PCIe in them,
since PCIe support was not there day 1. So returning -ENODEV, and the
i2c controller assuming an A0 would make sense.

But what should we do if somebody was to boot linux with a FreeBSD DT
blob? It is a valid blob, it describes the hardware, but the FreeBSD
nodes have different compatibility strings, don't have clocks, etc.
Now that is at the extreme of the range, but where do we put the
marker for compatibility in this range from current mainline blobs to
FreeBSD blobs?

Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-05 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-03  9:59 [PATCH v2 0/2] Fix i2c bus hang on A0 version of the Armada XP SoCs Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03  9:59 ` Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found] ` <1388743185-24822-1-git-send-email-gregory.clement-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-03  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] ARM: mvebu: Add support to get the ID and the revision of a SoC Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03  9:59     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 14:47     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-03 14:47       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-03 14:51       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 14:51         ` Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found]         ` <52C6CE7E.5010800-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-03 15:13           ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 15:13             ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 16:41             ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-03 16:41               ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-03 19:30               ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 19:30                 ` Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found]     ` <1388743185-24822-2-git-send-email-gregory.clement-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-03 18:48       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-01-03 18:48         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-01-03 19:25         ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 19:25           ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 18:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-03 18:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-03 19:35       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 19:35         ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-05 14:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-05 14:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-05 15:40       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-05 15:40         ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]         ` <20140105154023.GA2048-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-05 17:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-05 17:27             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20140105172756.GA11280-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-05 17:37               ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-01-05 17:37                 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-01-05 23:07                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-05 23:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-05 23:12                   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-01-05 23:12                     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
     [not found]                     ` <52C9E6D0.3000406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-05 23:40                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-05 23:40                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-01-06  0:05                         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-01-06  0:05                           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-01-06  0:17                           ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-06  0:17                             ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]                             ` <20140106001709.GD4093-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-06  9:55                               ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-06  9:55                                 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-06 10:10                                 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-06 10:10                                   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-05 19:17           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-05 19:17             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <201401052017.10982.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-05 23:51               ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2014-01-05 23:51                 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-06 15:37                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-06 15:37                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201401061637.28194.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-06 16:24                     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-01-06 16:24                       ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]                       ` <20140106162442.GB13111-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-07 14:41                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-07 14:41                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-06 10:28       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-06 10:28         ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03  9:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] i2c: mv64xxx: Fix bus hang on A0 version of the Armada XP SoCs Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03  9:59   ` Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found]   ` <1388743185-24822-3-git-send-email-gregory.clement-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-03 12:20     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 12:20       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 18:49   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-01-03 18:49     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-01-03 19:31     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-03 19:31       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-05 14:33   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-05 14:33     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <201401051533.58931.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-06  9:09       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-06  9:09         ` Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found]         ` <52CA72BF.10604-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-07  9:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-07  9:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <201401071003.31309.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-07 13:17               ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-07 13:17                 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-01-07 20:50                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-07 20:50                   ` Arnd Bergmann

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