[PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Olof Johansson]

Signed-off-by: Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com>
---
 meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
index 9f45b6c..b04c597 100644
--- a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
+++ b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
@@ -86,6 +86,7 @@ SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS ?= " \
             Debian-7.1 \n \
             Debian-7.2 \n \
             Debian-7.3 \n \
+            Debian-7.4 \n \
             SUSE-LINUX-12.2 \n \
             openSUSE-project-12.3 \n \
             "
-- 
1.8.5.3

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Olof Johansson]

On 14-02-10 10:37 +0100, Olof Johansson wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com>
> ---
>  meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf | 1 +
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
> index 9f45b6c..b04c597 100644
> --- a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
> +++ b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
> @@ -86,6 +86,7 @@ SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS ?= " \
>              Debian-7.1 \n \
>              Debian-7.2 \n \
>              Debian-7.3 \n \
> +            Debian-7.4 \n \
>              SUSE-LINUX-12.2 \n \
>              openSUSE-project-12.3 \n \
>              "

Is somebody working on wildcards in SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS? Would
be nice for Debian-7.x :-).

https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5265

-- 
olofjn

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Laszlo Papp]

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com> wrote:
> On 14-02-10 10:37 +0100, Olof Johansson wrote:
>> Signed-off-by: Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com>
>> ---
>>  meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf | 1 +
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
>> index 9f45b6c..b04c597 100644
>> --- a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
>> +++ b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
>> @@ -86,6 +86,7 @@ SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS ?= " \
>>              Debian-7.1 \n \
>>              Debian-7.2 \n \
>>              Debian-7.3 \n \
>> +            Debian-7.4 \n \
>>              SUSE-LINUX-12.2 \n \
>>              openSUSE-project-12.3 \n \
>>              "
>
> Is somebody working on wildcards in SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS? Would
> be nice for Debian-7.x :-).

You mean [1-4]?

7.x could break if a new version is available, but it is not tested.

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 10/02/2014 at 10:46:05 +0100, Olof Johansson wrote :
> On 14-02-10 10:37 +0100, Olof Johansson wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com>
> > ---
> >  meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf | 1 +
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
> > index 9f45b6c..b04c597 100644
> > --- a/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
> > +++ b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf
> > @@ -86,6 +86,7 @@ SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS ?= " \
> >              Debian-7.1 \n \
> >              Debian-7.2 \n \
> >              Debian-7.3 \n \
> > +            Debian-7.4 \n \
> >              SUSE-LINUX-12.2 \n \
> >              openSUSE-project-12.3 \n \
> >              "
> 
> Is somebody working on wildcards in SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS? Would
> be nice for Debian-7.x :-).
> 
> https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5265
> 

What if a minor distro actually breaks ? :)

Then you won't get a warning until someone updates the regex to
explicitly exclude that minor version.

I would agree that hte chances are quite small but they do exist ;)

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Olof Johansson]

On 14-02-10 10:55 +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> What if a minor distro actually breaks ? :)

Debian have policies that limit the type of changes entering a
stable point release, and it is my opinion that we can assume
that a new point release doesn't break anything (to the level of
insanity --- this is SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS we are talking about
here), and then react to this not being the case instead of the
other way around.

It's quite unfortunate that we have to update it ~every other
month. These changes are usually not backported to the stable
branch of poky, and as such, people using it will have warnings
about using a non-supported host distribution, even though this
isn't the case.

-- 
olofjn

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Laszlo Papp]

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com> wrote:
> On 14-02-10 10:55 +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
>> What if a minor distro actually breaks ? :)
>
> Debian have policies that limit the type of changes entering a
> stable point release, and it is my opinion that we can assume
> that a new point release doesn't break anything (to the level of
> insanity --- this is SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS we are talking about
> here), and then react to this not being the case instead of the
> other way around.
>
> It's quite unfortunate that we have to update it ~every other
> month. These changes are usually not backported to the stable
> branch of poky, and as such, people using it will have warnings
> about using a non-supported host distribution, even though this
> isn't the case.

How is a software distribution supported if untested?

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Olof Johansson]

On 14-02-10 16:07 +0100, Laszlo Papp wrote:
> How is a software distribution supported if untested?

I've made my argument that Debian 7.* is tested. I welcome input
and opinions as long as we don't get caught in futile discussions
on semantics.

It all boils down to whether or not we can trust Debian to only
make reasonably backwards compatible point releases (which I am
of the opinion that we can). Of course, those that disagree have
valid points, but the cost of not trusting Debian has been
described in my previous mail.



PS. I just noticed that the Ubuntu version string in
SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS does not include point release version.
The latest 12.04 release is 12.04.4.

-- 
olofjn

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Laszlo Papp]

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Olof Johansson <olof.johansson@axis.com> wrote:
> On 14-02-10 16:07 +0100, Laszlo Papp wrote:
>> How is a software distribution supported if untested?
>
> I've made my argument that Debian 7.* is tested. I welcome input
> and opinions as long as we don't get caught in futile discussions
> on semantics.
>
> It all boils down to whether or not we can trust Debian to only
> make reasonably backwards compatible point releases (which I am
> of the opinion that we can). Of course, those that disagree have
> valid points, but the cost of not trusting Debian has been
> described in my previous mail.

I do not see much cost. If you are sure it should work, just ignore the warning.

As a user, I would be unhappy if it turns out that a distribution has
some issues with Yocto, and that distribution version has not even
been tested!

Re: [PATCH] poky.conf: Add Debian-7.4 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 10/02/2014 at 15:57:49 +0100, Olof Johansson wrote :
> On 14-02-10 10:55 +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > What if a minor distro actually breaks ? :)
> 
> Debian have policies that limit the type of changes entering a
> stable point release, and it is my opinion that we can assume
> that a new point release doesn't break anything (to the level of
> insanity --- this is SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS we are talking about
> here), and then react to this not being the case instead of the
> other way around.
> 

I completely agree with you that a point release is unlikely to break
anything and continuing to update SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS is probably more
costly (that was the point of my smiley).

> It's quite unfortunate that we have to update it ~every other
> month. These changes are usually not backported to the stable
> branch of poky, and as such, people using it will have warnings
> about using a non-supported host distribution, even though this
> isn't the case.
> 

Anyway, I was under the feeling that people using poky to generate
production systems would even want to restrict what was in
SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS to make sure their developers are all using their
locally tested distribution.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com