From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/8] memcg: update comment about charge reparenting on cgroup exit
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:48:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140211184843.GL6963@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1402101208290.1516@eggly.anvils>
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:12:42PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 07-02-14 12:04:20, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > Reparenting memory charges in the css_free() callback was meant as a
> > > temporary fix for charges that race with offlining, but after some
> > > follow-up discussion, it turns out that this is really the right place
> > > to reparent charges because it guarantees none are in-flight.
>
> Perhaps: I'm not as gung-ho for this new orthodoxy as you are.
>
> > > Make clear that the reparenting in css_offline() is an optimistic
> > > sweep of established charges because swapout records might hold up
> > > css_free() indefinitely, but that in fact the css_free() reparenting
> > > is the properly synchronized one.
>
> It worries me that you keep referring to the memsw usage, but
> forget the kmem usage, which also delays css_free() indefinitely.
>
> Or am I out-of-date? Seems not, mem_cgroup_reparent_chages() still
> waits for memcg->res - memcg->kmem to reach 0, knowing there's not
> much certainty that kmem will reach 0 any time soon.
>
> I think you need a plan for what to do with the kmem pinning,
> before going much further in reworking the memsw pinning.
>
> Or at the least, please mention it in this patch's comment.
It think the discussion from the other thread bled over into this one
a little bit, this patch was merely about clarifying that .css_free()
reparenting is not the crude hack it was described as.
Yes, I forgot about kmem and it should be mentioned in this patch.
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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/8] memcg: update comment about charge reparenting on cgroup exit
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:48:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140211184843.GL6963@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1402101208290.1516@eggly.anvils>
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:12:42PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 07-02-14 12:04:20, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > Reparenting memory charges in the css_free() callback was meant as a
> > > temporary fix for charges that race with offlining, but after some
> > > follow-up discussion, it turns out that this is really the right place
> > > to reparent charges because it guarantees none are in-flight.
>
> Perhaps: I'm not as gung-ho for this new orthodoxy as you are.
>
> > > Make clear that the reparenting in css_offline() is an optimistic
> > > sweep of established charges because swapout records might hold up
> > > css_free() indefinitely, but that in fact the css_free() reparenting
> > > is the properly synchronized one.
>
> It worries me that you keep referring to the memsw usage, but
> forget the kmem usage, which also delays css_free() indefinitely.
>
> Or am I out-of-date? Seems not, mem_cgroup_reparent_chages() still
> waits for memcg->res - memcg->kmem to reach 0, knowing there's not
> much certainty that kmem will reach 0 any time soon.
>
> I think you need a plan for what to do with the kmem pinning,
> before going much further in reworking the memsw pinning.
>
> Or at the least, please mention it in this patch's comment.
It think the discussion from the other thread bled over into this one
a little bit, this patch was merely about clarifying that .css_free()
reparenting is not the crude hack it was described as.
Yes, I forgot about kmem and it should be mentioned in this patch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-11 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-07 17:04 [patch 0/8] memcg: charge path cleanups Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 1/8] mm: memcg: remove unnecessary preemption disabling Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-10 14:17 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 14:17 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 2/8] mm: memcg: remove mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat() Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-10 14:19 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 14:19 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 3/8] memcg: update comment about charge reparenting on cgroup exit Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-10 14:23 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 14:23 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 20:12 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-02-10 20:12 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-02-11 18:48 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2014-02-11 18:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 4/8] memcg: !memcg && !mm is not allowed for __mem_cgroup_try_charge Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 5/8] memcg: remove unnecessary !mm check from try_get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-10 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 6/8] memcg: get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-10 14:41 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 14:41 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 7/8] memcg: do not replicate get_mem_cgroup_from_mm in __mem_cgroup_try_charge Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` [patch 8/8] memcg: sanitize __mem_cgroup_try_charge() call protocol Johannes Weiner
2014-02-07 17:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-10 15:28 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-10 15:28 ` Michal Hocko
2014-02-07 17:07 ` [patch 0/8] memcg: charge path cleanups Michal Hocko
2014-02-07 17:07 ` Michal Hocko
2014-03-10 15:55 ` Michal Hocko
2014-03-10 15:55 ` Michal Hocko
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