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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 2/2] tracing: syscall_regfunc() should not skip kernel threads
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:46:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140410144655.GA25316@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140410102816.24337ffe@gandalf.local.home>

On 04/10, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:38:55 +0200
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > > > However, this means that a user-space task spawned by
> > > > call_usermodehelper() won't report the system calls if
> > > > kernel_execve() is called when sys_tracepoint_refcount != 0.
> > >
> > > What about doing the set there? That is, we could add a check in the
> > > call_userspacehelper() just before it does the do_execve, that if
> > > sys_tracepoint_refcount is set, we set the TIF flag.
> >
> > But for what?
>
> Isn't call_usermodehelper() the reason you added this?

Sure. I meant, why complicate ____call_usermodehelper() and keep the
unnecessary complication (PF_KTHREAD check( in syscall_*regfunc() ?

> > And if we do this, ____call_usermodehelper() needs write_lock_irq(tasklist)
> > to serialize with syscall_*regfunc().
>
> You mean for the slight race between checking if its set and when the
> tracepoint is actually activated?

Or deactivated.

> I don't think we really care about that race.

OK, I won't argue. I agree, the problem is minor, but in this case imho
it is better to do nothing than add the racy fix.

> I mean, the tracepoint is
> activated usually by humans, and if they enabled it just as a usermode
> helper is activated, and those are really fast to run, do we even care
> if it is missed?

A user space task spawned by call_usermodehelper() can do everything, it
can run forever.

> Now, if tracing is on and we need to set the flag, that should take the
> task list lock to make sure that we don't miss clearing it. Missing the
> set isn't a big deal, but missing the clearing of the flag is.
>
> void tracepoint_check_syscalls(void)
> {
> 	if (!sys_tracepoint_refcount)
> 		return;
>
> 	read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> 	/* Make sure it wasn't cleared since taking the lock */
> 	if (sys_tracepoint_refcount)
> 		set_tsk_thread_flag(current, TIF_SYSCALL_TRACEPOINT);
> 	read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
> }

And how this can help to avoid the race? We need write_lock_irq().

Perhaps I missed something... and I simply do not understand why do you
want to do this.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-10 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-09 16:11 [PATCH 0/5] core: Convert thread iteration to use for_each[_process]_thread APIs, 1st pile Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-09 16:11 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched: Convert thread_group_cputime() to use for_each_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-09 17:12   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 17:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-09 17:32     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 18:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-09 19:46         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 19:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10 16:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10 16:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10 17:29               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 17:36                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10 17:42                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10 19:15                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 20:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10  7:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-09 16:11 ` [PATCH 2/5] tracepoint: Convert process iteration to use for_each_process_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-09 16:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2014-04-09 16:40     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-09 16:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 17:05       ` [PATCH 0/2] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 17:05         ` [PATCH RESEND 1/2] tracing: syscall_*regfunc() can race with copy_process() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 13:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 13:33             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 13:06           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 13:34             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-11 15:22               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-11 15:58                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-13 18:58                   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] tracing: syscall_*regfunc() fixes Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-13 18:58                     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] tracing: fix syscall_*regfunc() vs copy_process() race Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-14 23:57                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-13 18:59                     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] tracing: change syscall_*regfunc() to check PF_KTHREAD and use for_each_process_thread() Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-13 18:59                     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] tracing: syscall_regfunc() should not skip kernel threads Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-14 23:46                     ` [PATCH v2 0/3] tracing: syscall_*regfunc() fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2014-06-18 14:23                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-18 15:36                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 17:06         ` [PATCH RESEND 2/2] tracing: syscall_regfunc() should not skip kernel threads Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 13:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 13:38             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 14:28               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 14:46                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-04-10 15:08                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 17:57                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 18:14                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 19:00                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 19:13                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 19:38                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-10 19:55                             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-11 12:03                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-11 12:37                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-10 13:03         ` [PATCH 0/2] Was: Convert process iteration to use for_each_process_thread() Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09 16:11 ` [PATCH 3/5] hung_task: " Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-09 17:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-04-09 16:11 ` [PATCH 4/5] procfs: Convert process iteration to use for_each_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-09 16:11 ` [PATCH 5/5] sched: Convert tasks iteration to use for_each_process_thread() Frederic Weisbecker

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