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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Speedy Milan <speedy.milan@gmail.com>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ivan Pantovic <gyro.ivan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rm -f * on large files very slow on XFS + MD RAID 6 volume of 15x 4TB of HDDs (52TB)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:18:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140423021835.GI15995@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHuzUScfp19c_th_pfsZs05+yDz34MuEH-P1f+FF1dcivfH=5Q@mail.gmail.com>

[cc xfs@oss.sgi.com]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:58:53PM +0200, Speedy Milan wrote:
> I want to report very slow deletion of 24 50GB files (in total 12 TB),
> all present in the same folder.

total = 1.2TB?

> OS is CentOS 6.4, with upgraded kernel 3.13.1.
> 
> The hardware is a Supermicro server with 15x 4TB WD Se drives in MD
> RAID 6, totalling 52TB of free space.
> 
> XFS is formated directly on the RAID volume, without LVM layers.
> 
> Deletion was done with rm -f * command, and it took upwards of 1 hour
> to delete the files.
> 
> File system was filled completely prior to deletion.

Oh, that's bad. it's likely you fragmented the files into
millions of extents?

> rm was mostly waiting (D state), probably for kworker threads, and

No, waiting for IO.

> iostat was showing big HDD utilization numbers and very low throughput
> so it looked like a random HDD workload was in effect.

Yup, smells like file fragmentation. Non-fragmented 50GB files
should be removed in a few milliseconds. but if you've badly
fragmented the files, there could be 10 million extents in a 50GB
file. A few milliseconds per extent removal gives you....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Speedy Milan <speedy.milan@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ivan Pantovic <gyro.ivan@gmail.com>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: rm -f * on large files very slow on XFS + MD RAID 6 volume of 15x 4TB of HDDs (52TB)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:18:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140423021835.GI15995@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHuzUScfp19c_th_pfsZs05+yDz34MuEH-P1f+FF1dcivfH=5Q@mail.gmail.com>

[cc xfs@oss.sgi.com]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:58:53PM +0200, Speedy Milan wrote:
> I want to report very slow deletion of 24 50GB files (in total 12 TB),
> all present in the same folder.

total = 1.2TB?

> OS is CentOS 6.4, with upgraded kernel 3.13.1.
> 
> The hardware is a Supermicro server with 15x 4TB WD Se drives in MD
> RAID 6, totalling 52TB of free space.
> 
> XFS is formated directly on the RAID volume, without LVM layers.
> 
> Deletion was done with rm -f * command, and it took upwards of 1 hour
> to delete the files.
> 
> File system was filled completely prior to deletion.

Oh, that's bad. it's likely you fragmented the files into
millions of extents?

> rm was mostly waiting (D state), probably for kworker threads, and

No, waiting for IO.

> iostat was showing big HDD utilization numbers and very low throughput
> so it looked like a random HDD workload was in effect.

Yup, smells like file fragmentation. Non-fragmented 50GB files
should be removed in a few milliseconds. but if you've badly
fragmented the files, there could be 10 million extents in a 50GB
file. A few milliseconds per extent removal gives you....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-23  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21 20:58 rm -f * on large files very slow on XFS + MD RAID 6 volume of 15x 4TB of HDDs (52TB) Speedy Milan
2014-04-23  2:18 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2014-04-23  2:18   ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-23  7:23   ` Ivan Pantovic
2014-04-23  7:23     ` Ivan Pantovic
2014-04-23  8:25     ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-23  8:25       ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-23  9:21       ` Ivan Pantovic
2014-04-23  9:21         ` Ivan Pantovic
2014-04-23 22:12         ` Dave Chinner
2014-04-23 22:12           ` Dave Chinner

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