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From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@acpica.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [patch] lib: check for strcpy() overflows to fixed length buffers
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 08:06:02 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140501040602.GA24961@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140430150844.GA10621@mwanda>

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 06:08:44PM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> There are sometimes where we know that we are doing an strcpy() into a
> fixed length buffer.  In those cases, we could verify that the strcpy()
> doesn't overflow.  This patch introduces DEBUG_STRICT_SLOW_STRCPY_CHECKS
> if you want to check for that.

FWIW, I had posted similar macros for userland strcpy() and friends to
the security-audit list (now defunct) in 1998.  Someone preserved a copy
here (although the indentation is lost):

http://www.opennet.ru/soft/0432.html

In (weird) use, with proper indentation:

http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2000-02/msg00366.html
https://github.com/tureba/trinoo/blob/master/strfix.h

Personally, I was using this at the time for building known-broken
software like wu-ftpd, where the risk of false positives felt lower than
the risk of buffer overflow bugs being in fact present in the code.

I used gcc's Statement Exprs extension, which is also used in the Linux
kernel a lot:

http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Statement-Exprs.html

So maybe you should, too.  (That is, if you want to go ahead with this
approach for code that isn't meant to be as broken as wu-ftpd was.)
This lets us propagate the original return value.

To determine the destination buffer size, I simply used sizeof() and
skipped my added protection in case the size looked like that of a
pointer.  Now you have those nice new gcc features instead. :-)

> The downside is that it makes strcpy slower.

I guess the slowdown is mostly from the added strlen().  I avoided it by
using strncat(), so I had truncation instead of detection.  It is
unclear which is better.

Other functions I did this for are strcat(), sprintf(), vsprintf().

Alexander

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From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@acpica.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] lib: check for strcpy() overflows to fixed length buffers
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 08:06:02 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140501040602.GA24961@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140430150844.GA10621@mwanda>

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 06:08:44PM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> There are sometimes where we know that we are doing an strcpy() into a
> fixed length buffer.  In those cases, we could verify that the strcpy()
> doesn't overflow.  This patch introduces DEBUG_STRICT_SLOW_STRCPY_CHECKS
> if you want to check for that.

FWIW, I had posted similar macros for userland strcpy() and friends to
the security-audit list (now defunct) in 1998.  Someone preserved a copy
here (although the indentation is lost):

http://www.opennet.ru/soft/0432.html

In (weird) use, with proper indentation:

http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2000-02/msg00366.html
https://github.com/tureba/trinoo/blob/master/strfix.h

Personally, I was using this at the time for building known-broken
software like wu-ftpd, where the risk of false positives felt lower than
the risk of buffer overflow bugs being in fact present in the code.

I used gcc's Statement Exprs extension, which is also used in the Linux
kernel a lot:

http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Statement-Exprs.html

So maybe you should, too.  (That is, if you want to go ahead with this
approach for code that isn't meant to be as broken as wu-ftpd was.)
This lets us propagate the original return value.

To determine the destination buffer size, I simply used sizeof() and
skipped my added protection in case the size looked like that of a
pointer.  Now you have those nice new gcc features instead. :-)

> The downside is that it makes strcpy slower.

I guess the slowdown is mostly from the added strlen().  I avoided it by
using strncat(), so I had truncation instead of detection.  It is
unclear which is better.

Other functions I did this for are strcat(), sprintf(), vsprintf().

Alexander

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-01  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-30 15:08 [kernel-hardening] [patch] lib: check for strcpy() overflows to fixed length buffers Dan Carpenter
2014-04-30 15:08 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-04-30 15:33 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2014-04-30 15:33   ` Kees Cook
2014-04-30 16:19   ` [kernel-hardening] " Dan Carpenter
2014-04-30 16:19     ` Dan Carpenter
2014-04-30 16:44     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2014-04-30 16:44       ` Kees Cook
2014-04-30 19:49 ` [kernel-hardening] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-30 19:49   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-30 20:15   ` [kernel-hardening] " Dan Carpenter
2014-04-30 20:15     ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-06 12:41     ` [kernel-hardening] " Dan Carpenter
2014-05-06 12:41       ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-01  4:06 ` Solar Designer [this message]
2014-05-01  4:06   ` Solar Designer
2014-05-01  7:45   ` [kernel-hardening] " Dan Carpenter
2014-05-01  7:45     ` Dan Carpenter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-05  0:19 [Devel] " Zheng, Lv
2014-05-05  0:19 ` Zheng, Lv
2014-05-05  0:19 ` [kernel-hardening] " Zheng, Lv

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