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From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched,idle: Avoid spurious wakeup IPIs
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:40:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140509144034.GF7950@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140509141520.GV2844@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 03:15:20PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 02:37:27PM +0100, James Hogan wrote:
> > On 11 April 2014 14:42, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > +       return !(fetch_or(&ti->flags, _TIF_NEED_RESCHED) & _TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG);
> > 
> > This breaks the build on metag, and I suspect arm64 too:
> 
> Yep, I just got a patch for arm64.

[...]

> Any SMP arch that has a polling idle function of any kind (including the
> default cpu_idle_poll()).
> 
> That said, even if that's true, not having TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG isn't
> fatal, just sub-optimal in that we'll send an unconditional IPI to wake
> the CPU even though its polling TIF_NEED_RESCHED and doesn't need
> anything other than that write to wake up.
> 
> Most archs have (x86) hlt or (arm) wfi like idle instructions, and if
> that is your only possible idle function, you'll require the interrupt
> to wake up and there's really no point to having the POLLING bit.

I wonder why we still need TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG for arm64. It was on arm
until commit 16a8016372c42c7628eb (sanitize tsk_is_polling()). On arm64
we use wfi for idle or a firmware call but in both cases the assumption
is that we need an interrupt for waking up.

So I think we should remove this macro for arm64.

-- 
Catalin

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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"luto@amacapital.net" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"nicolas.pitre@linaro.org" <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com" <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	ARM Kernel List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched,idle: Avoid spurious wakeup IPIs
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:40:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140509144034.GF7950@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140509141520.GV2844@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 03:15:20PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 02:37:27PM +0100, James Hogan wrote:
> > On 11 April 2014 14:42, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > +       return !(fetch_or(&ti->flags, _TIF_NEED_RESCHED) & _TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG);
> > 
> > This breaks the build on metag, and I suspect arm64 too:
> 
> Yep, I just got a patch for arm64.

[...]

> Any SMP arch that has a polling idle function of any kind (including the
> default cpu_idle_poll()).
> 
> That said, even if that's true, not having TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG isn't
> fatal, just sub-optimal in that we'll send an unconditional IPI to wake
> the CPU even though its polling TIF_NEED_RESCHED and doesn't need
> anything other than that write to wake up.
> 
> Most archs have (x86) hlt or (arm) wfi like idle instructions, and if
> that is your only possible idle function, you'll require the interrupt
> to wake up and there's really no point to having the POLLING bit.

I wonder why we still need TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG for arm64. It was on arm
until commit 16a8016372c42c7628eb (sanitize tsk_is_polling()). On arm64
we use wfi for idle or a firmware call but in both cases the assumption
is that we need an interrupt for waking up.

So I think we should remove this macro for arm64.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-09 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-11 13:42 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] sched,idle: need resched polling rework Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] sched,idle,alpha: Switch from TS_POLLING to TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 14:38   ` Richard Henderson
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] sched,idle,tile: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 15:15   ` Chris Metcalf
2014-04-11 15:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] sched,idle,ia64: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] sched,idle,x86: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] sched,idle: Remove TS_POLLING support Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched,idle: Avoid spurious wakeup IPIs Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-13 21:41   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-09 13:37   ` James Hogan
2014-05-09 13:37     ` James Hogan
2014-05-09 14:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:40       ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2014-05-09 14:40         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 14:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:57           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 14:57             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 17:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:02               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:09                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 17:09                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-09 17:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 17:20                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 12:54                 ` [tip:sched/arch] arm64: Remove TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 12:26                 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-09 14:51       ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched,idle: Avoid spurious wakeup IPIs James Hogan
2014-05-09 14:51         ` James Hogan
2014-05-09 14:51         ` James Hogan
     [not found]         ` <536CEB7E.9080007-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  9:17           ` James Hogan
2014-05-15  9:17             ` James Hogan
2014-05-15  9:17             ` James Hogan
2014-05-19 12:54         ` [tip:sched/arch] metag: Remove TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG tip-bot for James Hogan
2014-05-22 12:26         ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for James Hogan
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] sched,idle: Delay clearing the polling bit Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-13 21:51   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-11 13:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] sched,idle: Reflow cpuidle_idle_call() Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-13 21:36   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-14  8:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-14  9:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-14 13:55         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-11 15:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] sched,idle: need resched polling rework Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-11 15:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 12:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-22 13:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-29  0:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-29  6:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03  6:40           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03  6:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 10:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 14:02               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 16:05                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03 16:19                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 16:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03 17:00                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 18:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-03 18:44                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-03 20:07                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-12  8:35 ` Mike Galbraith

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