From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, anton@samba.org,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: Node 0 not necessary for powerpc?
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:57:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521195743.GA5755@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140521185812.GA5259@htj.dyndns.org>
Hi Tejun,
On 21.05.2014 [14:58:12 -0400], Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:16:27AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 May 2014, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > > I'm seeing a panic at boot with this change on an LPAR which actually
> > > has no Node 0. Here's what I think is happening:
> > >
> > > start_kernel
> > > ...
> > > -> setup_per_cpu_areas
> > > -> pcpu_embed_first_chunk
> > > -> pcpu_fc_alloc
> > > -> ___alloc_bootmem_node(NODE_DATA(cpu_to_node(cpu), ...
> > > -> smp_prepare_boot_cpu
> > > -> set_numa_node(boot_cpuid)
> > >
> > > So we panic on the NODE_DATA call. It seems that ia64, at least, uses
> > > pcpu_alloc_first_chunk rather than embed. x86 has some code to handle
> > > early calls of cpu_to_node (early_cpu_to_node) and sets the mapping for
> > > all CPUs in setup_per_cpu_areas().
> >
> > Maybe we can switch ia64 too embed? Tejun: Why are there these
> > dependencies?
> >
> > > Thoughts? Does that mean we need something similar to x86 for powerpc?
>
> I'm missing context to properly understand what's going on but the
> specific allocator in use shouldn't matter. e.g. x86 can use both
> embed and page allocators. If the problem is that the arch is
> accessing percpu memory before percpu allocator is initialized and the
> problem was masked before somehow, the right thing to do would be
> removing those premature percpu accesses. If early percpu variables
> are really necessary, doing similar early_percpu thing as in x86 would
> be necessary.
For context: I was looking at why N_ONLINE was statically setting Node 0
to be online, whether or not the topology is that way -- I've been
getting several bugs lately where Node 0 is online, but has no CPUs and
no memory on it, on powerpc.
On powerpc, setup_per_cpu_areas calls into ___alloc_bootmem_node using
NODE_DATA(cpu_to_node(cpu)).
Currently, cpu_to_node() in arch/powerpc/include/asm/topology.h does:
/*
* During early boot, the numa-cpu lookup table might not have been
* setup for all CPUs yet. In such cases, default to node 0.
*/
return (nid < 0) ? 0 : nid;
And so early at boot, if node 0 is not present, we end up accessing an
unitialized NODE_DATA(). So this seems buggy (I'll contact the powerpc
deveopers separately on that).
I recently submitted patches to have powerpc turn on
USE_PERCPU_NUMA_NODEID and HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES. But then, cpu_to_node
will be accessing percpu data in setup_per_cpu_areas, which seems like a
no-no. And more specifically, since we haven't yet run
smp_prepare_boot_cpu() at this point, cpu_to_node has not yet been
initialized to provide a sane value.
Thanks,
Nish
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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
anton@samba.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, tony.luck@intel.com
Subject: Re: Node 0 not necessary for powerpc?
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:57:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521195743.GA5755@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140521185812.GA5259@htj.dyndns.org>
Hi Tejun,
On 21.05.2014 [14:58:12 -0400], Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:16:27AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 May 2014, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > > I'm seeing a panic at boot with this change on an LPAR which actually
> > > has no Node 0. Here's what I think is happening:
> > >
> > > start_kernel
> > > ...
> > > -> setup_per_cpu_areas
> > > -> pcpu_embed_first_chunk
> > > -> pcpu_fc_alloc
> > > -> ___alloc_bootmem_node(NODE_DATA(cpu_to_node(cpu), ...
> > > -> smp_prepare_boot_cpu
> > > -> set_numa_node(boot_cpuid)
> > >
> > > So we panic on the NODE_DATA call. It seems that ia64, at least, uses
> > > pcpu_alloc_first_chunk rather than embed. x86 has some code to handle
> > > early calls of cpu_to_node (early_cpu_to_node) and sets the mapping for
> > > all CPUs in setup_per_cpu_areas().
> >
> > Maybe we can switch ia64 too embed? Tejun: Why are there these
> > dependencies?
> >
> > > Thoughts? Does that mean we need something similar to x86 for powerpc?
>
> I'm missing context to properly understand what's going on but the
> specific allocator in use shouldn't matter. e.g. x86 can use both
> embed and page allocators. If the problem is that the arch is
> accessing percpu memory before percpu allocator is initialized and the
> problem was masked before somehow, the right thing to do would be
> removing those premature percpu accesses. If early percpu variables
> are really necessary, doing similar early_percpu thing as in x86 would
> be necessary.
For context: I was looking at why N_ONLINE was statically setting Node 0
to be online, whether or not the topology is that way -- I've been
getting several bugs lately where Node 0 is online, but has no CPUs and
no memory on it, on powerpc.
On powerpc, setup_per_cpu_areas calls into ___alloc_bootmem_node using
NODE_DATA(cpu_to_node(cpu)).
Currently, cpu_to_node() in arch/powerpc/include/asm/topology.h does:
/*
* During early boot, the numa-cpu lookup table might not have been
* setup for all CPUs yet. In such cases, default to node 0.
*/
return (nid < 0) ? 0 : nid;
And so early at boot, if node 0 is not present, we end up accessing an
unitialized NODE_DATA(). So this seems buggy (I'll contact the powerpc
deveopers separately on that).
I recently submitted patches to have powerpc turn on
USE_PERCPU_NUMA_NODEID and HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES. But then, cpu_to_node
will be accessing percpu data in setup_per_cpu_areas, which seems like a
no-no. And more specifically, since we haven't yet run
smp_prepare_boot_cpu() at this point, cpu_to_node has not yet been
initialized to provide a sane value.
Thanks,
Nish
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-21 19:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-11 19:56 Node 0 not necessary for powerpc? Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-03-11 19:56 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-03-12 2:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-03-12 2:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-03-13 16:48 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-03-13 16:48 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-03-12 13:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-03-12 13:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-03-13 16:49 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-03-13 16:49 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-05-19 18:24 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-05-19 18:24 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-05-21 14:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-21 14:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-21 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-21 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-21 19:57 ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2014-05-21 19:57 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-09 21:47 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 21:47 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-10 23:31 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-10 23:31 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-19 14:59 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19 14:59 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19 17:40 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-19 17:40 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-19 17:14 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-19 17:14 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
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