From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TOPIC] Encouraging more reviewers
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 22:02:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140530050220.GA2505@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401423973.2163.26.camel@dabdike>
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:26:13AM +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 16:34 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Just preparing it for gerrit takes a long time (around ten minutes per
> > > patch), which really reduces the volume of trivial patches, just because
> > > no-one has that much energy (although some would argue it reduces the
> > > volume too far).
> > >
> > > It's human nature to spend more time on the easy problems, so a flood of
> > > trivial patches which are "obviously" correct is easier to review and
> > > include than one patch which alters something deep within mm and needs
> > > careful thought. At best, excessively split trivial patches are a
> > > dilution of our review effort and at worst, they're actively sucking
> > > people away from tackling the hard problems.
> >
> > I have not heard of these "cleanup" patches taking anyone's review
> > cycles up for the "harder" patches, do you have examples of it?
>
> Yes, me.
Then flat out reject them. Some subsystem maintainers do. Or, push
back, like you said later with a "I'll take this if you will maintain
the driver from now on." :)
No one is forcing you to take these drivers, but as someone who has
really old code, I can see how it would get annoying with people hitting
you with cleanup patches. Maybe you should just do a "coding style
cleanup" set of patches yourself one release to get it all in shape then
not have to worry about it anymore. That's what I did years ago for the
USB drivers...
thanks,
greg k-h
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2014-05-24 9:53 [Ksummit-discuss] [TOPIC] Encouraging more reviewers James Bottomley
2014-05-24 11:19 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-24 19:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-25 4:56 ` NeilBrown
2014-05-25 4:57 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-26 15:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-30 16:05 ` mark gross
2014-05-30 16:45 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-01 14:05 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-25 8:59 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-26 12:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 12:52 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-27 17:27 ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-27 22:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-27 22:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-27 23:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-28 14:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-28 14:32 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-28 14:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-28 16:39 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-28 16:51 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-28 17:35 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-28 17:44 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-28 18:38 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-28 21:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-29 9:28 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-29 17:41 ` Greg KH
2014-05-30 2:41 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-30 17:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-30 23:40 ` Greg KH
2014-05-31 16:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-06-01 8:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-31 23:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-29 18:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-28 22:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-28 23:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-29 18:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-29 7:35 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-28 16:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-28 16:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-28 16:50 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-28 16:20 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-28 16:28 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-28 17:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-05-28 21:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-28 23:31 ` josh
2014-05-28 23:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-29 0:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-29 0:47 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-29 0:52 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-29 6:13 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-29 18:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-29 23:34 ` Greg KH
2014-05-30 2:23 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-30 4:26 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-30 5:02 ` Greg KH [this message]
2014-05-30 5:33 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-30 14:14 ` John W. Linville
2014-05-30 16:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-30 16:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-30 16:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] More productive uses of enthusiastic new kernel developers (was: Re: [TOPIC] Encouraging more reviewers) Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-30 19:54 ` Shuah Khan
2014-06-02 12:00 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-30 20:50 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-31 1:44 ` [Ksummit-discuss] More productive uses of enthusiastic new kernel developers Li Zefan
2014-05-31 1:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-31 2:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-31 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-31 2:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-31 3:52 ` Greg KH
2014-05-31 4:08 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-30 23:47 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TOPIC] Encouraging more reviewers Greg KH
2014-05-30 11:17 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-31 21:05 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-29 10:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-29 18:36 ` Greg KH
2014-05-29 15:32 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-28 5:37 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-28 10:06 ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-28 13:57 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-24 14:24 ` Dan Williams
2014-05-26 12:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-24 15:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-05-24 17:31 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-25 4:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-05-26 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-27 18:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-25 4:17 ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-05-25 8:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-25 9:11 ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-05-27 8:16 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-25 9:09 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-25 22:29 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-26 15:53 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-27 14:39 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-27 20:53 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-27 21:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-28 0:10 ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-05-28 0:30 ` Greg KH
2014-05-28 23:25 ` Dan Williams
2014-05-28 23:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-28 23:47 ` Dan Williams
2014-05-29 4:01 ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-05-29 5:17 ` Dan Williams
2014-05-29 23:56 ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-05-29 23:59 ` Dan Williams
2014-05-28 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-29 0:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-29 4:36 ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-05-29 16:46 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-29 21:57 ` Frank Rowand
2014-05-29 23:12 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-28 1:10 ` NeilBrown
2014-05-28 5:11 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-26 12:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-28 18:47 ` Paul Walmsley
2014-05-28 20:15 ` josh
2014-05-29 2:15 ` Rob Herring
2014-05-29 3:34 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-30 0:52 ` Paul Walmsley
2014-05-29 8:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2014-05-30 0:47 ` Paul Walmsley
2014-05-30 0:51 ` Paul Walmsley
2014-05-28 18:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] Reforming Acked-by (was Re: [TOPIC] Encouraging more reviewers) Paul Walmsley
2014-05-28 19:11 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-28 19:15 ` John W. Linville
2014-05-28 19:51 ` Mimi Zohar
2014-05-30 14:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-30 15:10 ` John W. Linville
2014-05-30 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-30 21:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-02 2:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-06-02 2:53 ` NeilBrown
2014-06-02 3:01 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-28 19:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-28 20:12 ` josh
2014-05-28 20:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-05-28 23:02 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-28 23:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-05-28 23:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-29 14:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-29 14:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-29 16:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-30 10:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-29 15:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-29 18:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-29 21:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-29 21:03 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-29 23:30 ` Greg KH
2014-05-30 1:12 ` Paul Walmsley
2014-05-30 5:04 ` Greg KH
2014-05-30 5:39 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-30 11:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-30 23:39 ` Greg KH
2014-05-30 10:08 ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-30 13:07 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-30 13:41 ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-30 15:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-31 1:30 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-30 14:34 ` John W. Linville
2014-05-30 0:55 ` Paul Walmsley
2014-05-30 15:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-30 15:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-30 21:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-30 21:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-30 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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