From: Matt Porter <mporter-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 2/4] mailbox: Introduce framework for mailbox
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 07:12:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140605111205.GD32082@beef> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJe_ZheA_2PwzFGwx2rdba0oVsAKRnwK02XE-8nPY6K5NKpdTw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 03:51:55PM +0530, Jassi Brar wrote:
> On 3 June 2014 15:05, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Hi Jassi,
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Matt Porter <mporter-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:01:55AM +0530, Jassi Brar wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Being more specific to your platform, I think you need some server
> >>>> code (mailbox's client) that every driver (like clock, pmu, pinmux
> >>>> etc) registers with to send messages to remote and receive commands
> >>>> from remote ... perhaps by registering some filter to sort out
> >>>> messages for each driver.
> >>>
> >>> Right, and here's where you hit on the problem. This server you mention
> >>> is not a piece of hardware, it would be a software construct. As such, it
> >>> doesn't fit into the DT binding as it exists. It's probably best to
> >>> illustrate in DT syntax.
> >>>
> >>> If I were to represent the hardware relationship in the DT binding now
> >>> it would look like this:
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> cpm: mailbox@deadbeef {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-mailbox";
> >>> reg = <...>;
> >>> #mbox-cells <1>;
> >>> interrupts = <...>;
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> /* clock complex */
> >>> ccu {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-foo-ccu";
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> /* leaving out other mailboxes for brevity */
> >>> #clock-cells <1>;
> >>> clock-output-names = "bar",
> >>> "baz";
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> pmu {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-foo-pmu"
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> pinmux {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-foo-pinctrl";
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> };
> >>> ---
> >> Yeah, I too don't think its a good idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>> What we would need to do is completely ignore this information in each
> >>> of the of the client drivers associated with the clock, pmu, and pinmux
> >>> devices. This IPC server would need to be instantiated and get the
> >>> mailbox information from some source. mbox_request_channel() only works
> >>> when the client has an of_node with the mbox-names property present.
> >>> Let's say we follow this model and represent it in DT:
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> cpm: mailbox@deadbeef {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-mailbox";
> >>> reg = <...>;
> >>> #mbox-cells <1>;
> >>> interrupts = <...>;
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> cpm_ipc {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-ipc";
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> /* leaving out other mailboxes for brevity */
> >>> };
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> This would allow an ipc driver to exclusively own this system channel,
> >>> but now we've invented a binding that doesn't reflect the hardware at
> >>> all. It's describing software so I don't believe the DT maintainers will
> >>> allow this type of construct.
> >>>
> >> Must the server node specify MMIO and an IRQ, to be acceptable? Like ...
> >>
> >> cpm_ipc : cpm@deadbeef {
> >> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-ipc";
> >> /* reg = <0xdeadbeef 0x100>; */
> >> /* interrupts = <0 123 4>; */
> >> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >> mbox-names = "system";
> >> };
> >>
> >> cpm_ipc already specifies a hardware resource (mbox) that its driver
> >> needs, I think that should be enough reason. If it were some purely
> >> soft property for the driver like
> >> mode = "poll"; //or "irq"
> >> then the node wouldn't be justified because that is the job of a
> >> build-time config or run-time module option.
> >>
> >
> > Like Matt, I am also in similar situation where there's a lot of common
> > code necessary to construct/parse IPCs for each of the drivers using the
> > mailbox.
> >
> > As per your suggestion if we have single DT node to specify both the
> > controller and the client, we might still have to pollute this node with
> > software specific compatibles.
> >
> I am afraid you misunderstood me. I don't suggest single node for
> mailbox controller and client, and IIUC, neither did Matt. Please note
> the controller is cpm and client is cpm_ipc.
Correct, I had separate controller and consumer nodes as written
above...to match the binding.
> BTW, here we at least have a hardware resource to specify in the DT
> node, there are examples in kernel where the DT nodes are purely
> virtual. For ex, grep for "linux,spdif-dit". So I think we should be
> ok.
>
There's a bit of a difference between my concern over a virtual node and
this example you've cited. In the dummy spdif transmitter, it's defining
a virtual device that plugs in for a codec, a hardware concept well
defined in the audio bindings. I agree that there are many examples of
this type of virtual node, including dummy phys, but in all cases they
are stubbing out a real hardware concept.
I find it to be distinctly different to create a node that doesn't
represent the hardware's use of mailboxes. I'd be happy if a DT
maintainer could say that this is acceptable though. ;)
-Matt
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From: Matt Porter <mporter@linaro.org>
To: Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh@linaro.org>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Anna, Suman" <s-anna@ti.com>,
Loic Pallardy <loic.pallardy@st.com>,
LeyFoon Tan <lftan.linux@gmail.com>,
Craig McGeachie <slapdau@yahoo.com.au>,
Courtney Cavin <courtney.cavin@sonymobile.com>,
Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
Josh Cartwright <joshc@codeaurora.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 2/4] mailbox: Introduce framework for mailbox
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 07:12:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140605111205.GD32082@beef> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJe_ZheA_2PwzFGwx2rdba0oVsAKRnwK02XE-8nPY6K5NKpdTw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 03:51:55PM +0530, Jassi Brar wrote:
> On 3 June 2014 15:05, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jassi,
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Matt Porter <mporter@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:01:55AM +0530, Jassi Brar wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Being more specific to your platform, I think you need some server
> >>>> code (mailbox's client) that every driver (like clock, pmu, pinmux
> >>>> etc) registers with to send messages to remote and receive commands
> >>>> from remote ... perhaps by registering some filter to sort out
> >>>> messages for each driver.
> >>>
> >>> Right, and here's where you hit on the problem. This server you mention
> >>> is not a piece of hardware, it would be a software construct. As such, it
> >>> doesn't fit into the DT binding as it exists. It's probably best to
> >>> illustrate in DT syntax.
> >>>
> >>> If I were to represent the hardware relationship in the DT binding now
> >>> it would look like this:
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> cpm: mailbox@deadbeef {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-mailbox";
> >>> reg = <...>;
> >>> #mbox-cells <1>;
> >>> interrupts = <...>;
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> /* clock complex */
> >>> ccu {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-foo-ccu";
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> /* leaving out other mailboxes for brevity */
> >>> #clock-cells <1>;
> >>> clock-output-names = "bar",
> >>> "baz";
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> pmu {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-foo-pmu"
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> pinmux {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-foo-pinctrl";
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> };
> >>> ---
> >> Yeah, I too don't think its a good idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>> What we would need to do is completely ignore this information in each
> >>> of the of the client drivers associated with the clock, pmu, and pinmux
> >>> devices. This IPC server would need to be instantiated and get the
> >>> mailbox information from some source. mbox_request_channel() only works
> >>> when the client has an of_node with the mbox-names property present.
> >>> Let's say we follow this model and represent it in DT:
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> cpm: mailbox@deadbeef {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-mailbox";
> >>> reg = <...>;
> >>> #mbox-cells <1>;
> >>> interrupts = <...>;
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> cpm_ipc {
> >>> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-ipc";
> >>> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >>> mbox-names = "system";
> >>> /* leaving out other mailboxes for brevity */
> >>> };
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> This would allow an ipc driver to exclusively own this system channel,
> >>> but now we've invented a binding that doesn't reflect the hardware at
> >>> all. It's describing software so I don't believe the DT maintainers will
> >>> allow this type of construct.
> >>>
> >> Must the server node specify MMIO and an IRQ, to be acceptable? Like ...
> >>
> >> cpm_ipc : cpm@deadbeef {
> >> compatible = "brcm,bcm-cpm-ipc";
> >> /* reg = <0xdeadbeef 0x100>; */
> >> /* interrupts = <0 123 4>; */
> >> mbox = <&cpm CPM_SYSTEM_CHANNEL>;
> >> mbox-names = "system";
> >> };
> >>
> >> cpm_ipc already specifies a hardware resource (mbox) that its driver
> >> needs, I think that should be enough reason. If it were some purely
> >> soft property for the driver like
> >> mode = "poll"; //or "irq"
> >> then the node wouldn't be justified because that is the job of a
> >> build-time config or run-time module option.
> >>
> >
> > Like Matt, I am also in similar situation where there's a lot of common
> > code necessary to construct/parse IPCs for each of the drivers using the
> > mailbox.
> >
> > As per your suggestion if we have single DT node to specify both the
> > controller and the client, we might still have to pollute this node with
> > software specific compatibles.
> >
> I am afraid you misunderstood me. I don't suggest single node for
> mailbox controller and client, and IIUC, neither did Matt. Please note
> the controller is cpm and client is cpm_ipc.
Correct, I had separate controller and consumer nodes as written
above...to match the binding.
> BTW, here we at least have a hardware resource to specify in the DT
> node, there are examples in kernel where the DT nodes are purely
> virtual. For ex, grep for "linux,spdif-dit". So I think we should be
> ok.
>
There's a bit of a difference between my concern over a virtual node and
this example you've cited. In the dummy spdif transmitter, it's defining
a virtual device that plugs in for a codec, a hardware concept well
defined in the audio bindings. I agree that there are many examples of
this type of virtual node, including dummy phys, but in all cases they
are stubbing out a real hardware concept.
I find it to be distinctly different to create a node that doesn't
represent the hardware's use of mailboxes. I'd be happy if a DT
maintainer could say that this is acceptable though. ;)
-Matt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-05 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-15 6:08 [PATCHv5 0/4] Common Mailbox Framework Jassi Brar
2014-05-15 6:10 ` [PATCHv5 1/4] mailbox: rename pl320-ipc specific mailbox.h Jassi Brar
2014-05-15 6:11 ` [PATCHv5 2/4] mailbox: Introduce framework for mailbox Jassi Brar
2014-05-15 14:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-16 13:33 ` Jassi Brar
2014-05-19 13:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 18:03 ` Jassi Brar
2014-05-19 19:55 ` Bjorn Andersson
2014-05-19 20:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 18:11 ` Jassi Brar
2014-05-29 15:43 ` Matt Porter
2014-05-30 5:31 ` Jassi Brar
2014-06-02 15:14 ` Matt Porter
2014-06-02 17:11 ` Jassi Brar
[not found] ` <CABb+yY3ZYqtT+R0PwZDtpW0O0SsbxTyiYmXaseZHoj4Nr6UBPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 22:04 ` Matt Porter
2014-06-02 22:04 ` Matt Porter
2014-06-03 9:35 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-03 10:21 ` Jassi Brar
2014-06-03 15:06 ` Sudeep Holla
[not found] ` <CAJe_ZheA_2PwzFGwx2rdba0oVsAKRnwK02XE-8nPY6K5NKpdTw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-05 11:12 ` Matt Porter [this message]
2014-06-05 11:12 ` Matt Porter
2014-06-05 11:39 ` Jassi Brar
2014-06-05 11:39 ` Jassi Brar
2014-06-11 16:07 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-21 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-21 18:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-28 4:20 ` Jassi Brar
2014-05-28 15:50 ` Suman Anna
2014-06-11 15:37 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-15 6:11 ` [PATCHv5 3/4] mailbox: Fix TX completion init Jassi Brar
2014-05-15 6:12 ` [PATCHv5 4/4] mailbox: Fix deleteing poll timer Jassi Brar
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