From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Vince Hsu <vinceh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter De Schrijver
<pdeschrijver-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] ARM: tegra: Convert PMC to a driver
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:02:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140721090208.GJ8843@ulmo> (raw)
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 03:09:29PM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote:
>
> On 07/17/2014 07:01 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >* PGP Signed by an unknown key
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:01:56PM +0300, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
> >>On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:53:08AM +0200, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 08:57:16PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>>Old Signed by an unknown key
> >>>>On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 05:22:03PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >>>>>On Wednesday 16 July 2014 17:14:29 Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>>>>Ok, I'll have a look. I think when this becomes a separate driver, it
> >>>>>>>should also have its own header file, so maybe you can in the meantime
> >>>>>>>make it a local header file in mach-tegra until we have found a good
> >>>>>>>place for it.
> >>>>>>Why do you think it should be a separate header? We already have a
> >>>>>>couple in include/linux and I'm not sure it's useful to add even more.
> >>>>>>If anything I would've thought it made sense to move the content of the
> >>>>>>other headers into tegra-soc.h.
> >>>>>I very much dislike the idea of having a per-vendor header file that
> >>>>>everything gets crammed into. We should try to have proper subsystems
> >>>>>and generic interfaces for these wherever possible.
> >>>>I completely agree. However spreading the SoC-specific functions across
> >>>>multiple header files isn't going to help. If we keep all the per-vendor
> >>>>APIs in one file it makes it easier to see what could still be moved off
> >>>>into a separate subsystem.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now for PMC specifically, we've investigated converting the powergate
> >>>>API to power domains. I don't think it will be possible to make that
> >>>>work. The issue is that there's a defined sequence that needs to be
> >>>>respected to make sure the device is powered up properly. That sequence
> >>>>involves the primary clock and reset of the device. It's been proposed
> >>>>to make these clocks available to the PMC driver so that it can control
> >>>>them, but then we can't make sure that clocks are really off if they
> >>>>need to be, since we have two drivers accessing them. The only way I see
> >>>resets do not have reference counts, so they can be controlled by a
> >>>powerdomain driver without any problems. For clocks, there would only be
> >>>a problem for the module clocks if the drivers don't use runtime PM. If
> >>>we move all drivers to runtime PM, the clock control can move into the
> >>>powerdomain code and runtime PM will ensure domains are not turned off
> >>>with active modules.
> >>>
> >>>>to make that work reliably is by moving complete control of the
> >>>>powergate into drivers so that they can make sure clocks and resets are
> >>>>in the correct states.
> >>>>
> >>>Which won't work if you have domains which contain several modules.
> >>We also need to control the memory clients in the domains using
> >>MC_CLIENT_HOTRESET_CTRL.
> >Oh, great. More interdependencies...
> Some domains depend on others. Can we take this into account?
I'm not aware of any dependencies. Can you point me at the relevant
section in the TRM?
Thierry
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From: thierry.reding@gmail.com (Thierry Reding)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 12/12] ARM: tegra: Convert PMC to a driver
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:02:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140721090208.GJ8843@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53CCBCA9.7020907@nvidia.com>
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 03:09:29PM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote:
>
> On 07/17/2014 07:01 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >* PGP Signed by an unknown key
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:01:56PM +0300, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
> >>On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:53:08AM +0200, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 08:57:16PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>>Old Signed by an unknown key
> >>>>On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 05:22:03PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >>>>>On Wednesday 16 July 2014 17:14:29 Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>>>>Ok, I'll have a look. I think when this becomes a separate driver, it
> >>>>>>>should also have its own header file, so maybe you can in the meantime
> >>>>>>>make it a local header file in mach-tegra until we have found a good
> >>>>>>>place for it.
> >>>>>>Why do you think it should be a separate header? We already have a
> >>>>>>couple in include/linux and I'm not sure it's useful to add even more.
> >>>>>>If anything I would've thought it made sense to move the content of the
> >>>>>>other headers into tegra-soc.h.
> >>>>>I very much dislike the idea of having a per-vendor header file that
> >>>>>everything gets crammed into. We should try to have proper subsystems
> >>>>>and generic interfaces for these wherever possible.
> >>>>I completely agree. However spreading the SoC-specific functions across
> >>>>multiple header files isn't going to help. If we keep all the per-vendor
> >>>>APIs in one file it makes it easier to see what could still be moved off
> >>>>into a separate subsystem.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now for PMC specifically, we've investigated converting the powergate
> >>>>API to power domains. I don't think it will be possible to make that
> >>>>work. The issue is that there's a defined sequence that needs to be
> >>>>respected to make sure the device is powered up properly. That sequence
> >>>>involves the primary clock and reset of the device. It's been proposed
> >>>>to make these clocks available to the PMC driver so that it can control
> >>>>them, but then we can't make sure that clocks are really off if they
> >>>>need to be, since we have two drivers accessing them. The only way I see
> >>>resets do not have reference counts, so they can be controlled by a
> >>>powerdomain driver without any problems. For clocks, there would only be
> >>>a problem for the module clocks if the drivers don't use runtime PM. If
> >>>we move all drivers to runtime PM, the clock control can move into the
> >>>powerdomain code and runtime PM will ensure domains are not turned off
> >>>with active modules.
> >>>
> >>>>to make that work reliably is by moving complete control of the
> >>>>powergate into drivers so that they can make sure clocks and resets are
> >>>>in the correct states.
> >>>>
> >>>Which won't work if you have domains which contain several modules.
> >>We also need to control the memory clients in the domains using
> >>MC_CLIENT_HOTRESET_CTRL.
> >Oh, great. More interdependencies...
> Some domains depend on others. Can we take this into account?
I'm not aware of any dependencies. Can you point me at the relevant
section in the TRM?
Thierry
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2014-07-11 12:15 [PATCH 00/12] Add NVIDIA Tegra FUSE driver Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:15 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 02/12] ARM: tegra: Use a function to get the chip ID Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 05/12] soc/tegra: Add efuse driver for Tegra Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1405080971-7609-6-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-19 3:12 ` Shawn Guo
2014-10-19 3:12 ` Shawn Guo
2014-11-10 15:10 ` Thierry Reding
2014-11-10 15:10 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1405080971-7609-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 01/12] ARM: tegra: Sort includes alphabetically Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 03/12] ARM: tegra: export apb dma readl/writel Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 04/12] ARM: tegra: move fuse exports to tegra-soc.h Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 06/12] soc/tegra: Add efuse and apbmisc bindings Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 07/12] soc/tegra: fuse: move APB DMA into Tegra20 fuse driver Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 08/12] misc: fuse: fix dummy functions Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 09/12] ARM: tegra: Setup CPU hotplug in a pure initcall Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 10/12] ARM: tegra: Always lock the CPU reset vector Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 11/12] soc/tegra: fuse: Set up in early initcall Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` [PATCH 12/12] ARM: tegra: Convert PMC to a driver Thierry Reding
2014-07-11 12:16 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <1405080971-7609-13-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-11 13:58 ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-11 13:58 ` Peter De Schrijver
[not found] ` <20140711135800.GD23218-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-14 8:06 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-14 8:06 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 11:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-16 11:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201407161356.44693.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-16 13:22 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 13:22 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 14:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-16 14:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-16 15:14 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 15:14 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-16 18:57 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 18:57 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-16 19:34 ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-16 19:34 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMi=UrLS3OuFb9SAaf9dPBojYrqp4VE0YhGiX1hkLvYanw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-17 8:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-17 8:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-17 11:06 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-17 11:06 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-21 12:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-21 12:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-21 13:12 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-21 13:12 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-21 13:16 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-21 13:16 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20140721131619.GE12921-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-21 13:39 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-21 13:39 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-17 8:53 ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-17 8:53 ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-17 9:01 ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-17 9:01 ` Peter De Schrijver
[not found] ` <20140717090156.GR23218-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-17 11:01 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-17 11:01 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-21 7:09 ` Vince Hsu
2014-07-21 7:09 ` Vince Hsu
[not found] ` <53CCBCA9.7020907-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-21 9:02 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-07-21 9:02 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-22 3:34 ` Vince Hsu
2014-07-22 3:34 ` Vince Hsu
2014-07-13 6:38 ` [PATCH 00/12] Add NVIDIA Tegra FUSE driver Olof Johansson
2014-07-13 6:38 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20140713063815.GA24843-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-14 6:57 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-14 6:57 ` Thierry Reding
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