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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 18:31:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140731163138.GA15228@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140731160924.GR11241@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Again, sorry, I didn't read the patches yet, just noticed your discussion...

On 07/31, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 03:30:12PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
>
> > > +				t->rcu_tasks_nvcsw = ACCESS_ONCE(t->nvcsw);
> > > +				t->rcu_tasks_holdout = 1;
> > > +				list_add(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list,
> > > +					 &rcu_tasks_holdouts);
> >
> > I think get_task_struct() is needed here to avoid the task disappears.
>
> Hmmm...  Let's see...
>
> Looks like get_task_struct() does a blind atomic increment of ->usage.
> And put_task_struct() does an atomic_dec_and_test().  So one question
> is "what prevents us from doing get_task_struct() after the final
> put_task_struct() has pushed ->usage down to zero?"
>
> Hopefully there is a grace period in there somewhere, otherwise it will
> be necessary to take the task-list lock, which I would like to avoid.
>
> Looks like the call_rcu() of delayed_put_task_struct() in release_task()
> might be doing this.

Yes, exactly, so get_task_struct() is always fine as long as task_struct
itself is protected by RCU.

But can't we avoid get_task_struct()? This can pin a lot of task_struct's.
Can't we just add list_del_rcu(holdout_list) into __unhash_process() ?

We only need to ensure that list_add() above can't race with that list_del(),
perhaps we can tolerate lock_task_sighand() ?

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-31 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31  0:39 [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 0/10] RCU-tasks implementation Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39 ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 02/10] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 03/10] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:58     ` josh
2014-07-31 18:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 04/10] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:56     ` josh
2014-07-31 20:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 05/10] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 17:01     ` josh
2014-07-31 20:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 06/10] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 07/10] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 08/10] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 09/10] documentation: Add verbiage on RCU-tasks stall warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 10/10] rcu: Make RCU-tasks track exiting tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  7:30   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-31 16:09     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 16:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 16:31       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-07-31 17:02         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 17:27           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 17:44             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01  0:53       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01  2:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:19     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 0/10] RCU-tasks implementation josh
2014-07-31 16:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 16:43     ` josh
2014-07-31 16:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 17:20     ` josh
2014-07-31 18:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 20:58         ` josh
2014-07-31 21:11           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 19:29 ` Andi Kleen
2014-07-31 21:08   ` Paul E. McKenney

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