From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
ngupta@vflare.org, 'Jerome Marchand' <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
'Sergey Senozhatsky' <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
'Andrew Morton' <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] zram: add num_discards for discarded pages stat
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:11:16 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140826051116.GG11319@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008001cfc0da$de01b0d0$9a051270$@samsung.com>
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:05:47AM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> Hi Minchan,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Minchan Kim [mailto:minchan@kernel.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 8:36 AM
> > To: Chao Yu
> > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-mm@kvack.org; ngupta@vflare.org; 'Jerome Marchand';
> > 'Sergey Senozhatsky'; 'Andrew Morton'
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] zram: add num_discards for discarded pages stat
> >
> > Hello Chao,
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 04:21:01PM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > Since we have supported handling discard request in this commit
> > > f4659d8e620d08bd1a84a8aec5d2f5294a242764 (zram: support REQ_DISCARD), zram got
> > > one more chance to free unused memory whenever received discard request. But
> > > without stating for discard request, there is no method for user to know whether
> > > discard request has been handled by zram or how many blocks were discarded by
> > > zram when user wants to know the effect of discard.
> >
> > My concern is that how much we are able to know the effect of discard
> > exactly with your patch.
> >
> > The issue I can think of is zram-swap discard.
> > Now, zram handles notification from VM to free duplicated copy between
> > VM-owned memory and zRAM-owned's one so discarding for zram-swap might
> > be pointless overhead but your stat indicates lots of free page discarded
> > without real freeing so that user might think "We should keep enable
> > swap discard for zRAM because the stat indicates it's really good".
>
> Agreed.
>
> >
> > In summary, wouldn't it better to have two?
>
> Yeah, I'd like to.
>
> >
> > num_discards,
> > num_failed_discards?
>
> It's good, but, IMHO, as it's not failed to discard pages due to inside
> error of zRAM, How about show this information more positive by using:
> num_discard_req,
> num_discarded
Better.
>
> Then user might think "We can keep on using real-time mode or batch mode
> discard, because our freed pages are increased continuously shew by the
> num_discarded with sending discard reqs each time.
>
> How do you think?
It's good for your goal and my goal but I will wait Sergey's opinion.
Sergey, does it make sense to you, too?
>
> Thanks,
> Yu
>
> >
> > For it, we should modify zram_free_page has return value.
> > What do other guys think?
> >
> > >
> > > In this patch, we add num_discards to stat discarded pages, and export it to
> > > sysfs for users.
> > >
> > > * From v1
> > > * Update zram document to show num_discards in statistics list.
> > >
> > > * From v2
> > > * Update description of this patch with clear goal.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
> > > ---
> > > Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram | 10 ++++++++++
> > > Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt | 1 +
> > > drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c | 3 +++
> > > drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h | 1 +
> > > 4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > > index 70ec992..fa8936e 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > > +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > > @@ -57,6 +57,16 @@ Description:
> > > The failed_writes file is read-only and specifies the number of
> > > failed writes happened on this device.
> > >
> > > +
> > > +What: /sys/block/zram<id>/num_discards
> > > +Date: August 2014
> > > +Contact: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
> > > +Description:
> > > + The num_discards file is read-only and specifies the number of
> > > + physical blocks which are discarded by this device. These blocks
> > > + are included in discard request which is sended by filesystem as
> > > + the blocks are no longer used.
> > > +
> > > What: /sys/block/zram<id>/max_comp_streams
> > > Date: February 2014
> > > Contact: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt b/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt
> > > index 0595c3f..e50e18b 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt
> > > @@ -89,6 +89,7 @@ size of the disk when not in use so a huge zram is wasteful.
> > > num_writes
> > > failed_reads
> > > failed_writes
> > > + num_discards
> > > invalid_io
> > > notify_free
> > > zero_pages
> > > diff --git a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c
> > > index d00831c..904e7a5 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c
> > > @@ -606,6 +606,7 @@ static void zram_bio_discard(struct zram *zram, u32 index,
> > > bit_spin_lock(ZRAM_ACCESS, &meta->table[index].value);
> > > zram_free_page(zram, index);
> > > bit_spin_unlock(ZRAM_ACCESS, &meta->table[index].value);
> > > + atomic64_inc(&zram->stats.num_discards);
> > > index++;
> > > n -= PAGE_SIZE;
> > > }
> > > @@ -866,6 +867,7 @@ ZRAM_ATTR_RO(num_reads);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(num_writes);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(failed_reads);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(failed_writes);
> > > +ZRAM_ATTR_RO(num_discards);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(invalid_io);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(notify_free);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(zero_pages);
> > > @@ -879,6 +881,7 @@ static struct attribute *zram_disk_attrs[] = {
> > > &dev_attr_num_writes.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_failed_reads.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_failed_writes.attr,
> > > + &dev_attr_num_discards.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_invalid_io.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_notify_free.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_zero_pages.attr,
> > > diff --git a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h
> > > index e0f725c..2994aaf 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h
> > > +++ b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h
> > > @@ -86,6 +86,7 @@ struct zram_stats {
> > > atomic64_t num_writes; /* --do-- */
> > > atomic64_t failed_reads; /* can happen when memory is too low */
> > > atomic64_t failed_writes; /* can happen when memory is too low */
> > > + atomic64_t num_discards; /* no. of discarded pages */
> > > atomic64_t invalid_io; /* non-page-aligned I/O requests */
> > > atomic64_t notify_free; /* no. of swap slot free notifications */
> > > atomic64_t zero_pages; /* no. of zero filled pages */
> > > --
> > > 2.0.1.474.g72c7794
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Minchan Kim
>
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
ngupta@vflare.org, "'Jerome Marchand'" <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
"'Sergey Senozhatsky'" <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
"'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] zram: add num_discards for discarded pages stat
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:11:16 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140826051116.GG11319@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008001cfc0da$de01b0d0$9a051270$@samsung.com>
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:05:47AM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> Hi Minchan,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Minchan Kim [mailto:minchan@kernel.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 8:36 AM
> > To: Chao Yu
> > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-mm@kvack.org; ngupta@vflare.org; 'Jerome Marchand';
> > 'Sergey Senozhatsky'; 'Andrew Morton'
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] zram: add num_discards for discarded pages stat
> >
> > Hello Chao,
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 04:21:01PM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> > > Since we have supported handling discard request in this commit
> > > f4659d8e620d08bd1a84a8aec5d2f5294a242764 (zram: support REQ_DISCARD), zram got
> > > one more chance to free unused memory whenever received discard request. But
> > > without stating for discard request, there is no method for user to know whether
> > > discard request has been handled by zram or how many blocks were discarded by
> > > zram when user wants to know the effect of discard.
> >
> > My concern is that how much we are able to know the effect of discard
> > exactly with your patch.
> >
> > The issue I can think of is zram-swap discard.
> > Now, zram handles notification from VM to free duplicated copy between
> > VM-owned memory and zRAM-owned's one so discarding for zram-swap might
> > be pointless overhead but your stat indicates lots of free page discarded
> > without real freeing so that user might think "We should keep enable
> > swap discard for zRAM because the stat indicates it's really good".
>
> Agreed.
>
> >
> > In summary, wouldn't it better to have two?
>
> Yeah, I'd like to.
>
> >
> > num_discards,
> > num_failed_discards?
>
> It's good, but, IMHO, as it's not failed to discard pages due to inside
> error of zRAM, How about show this information more positive by using:
> num_discard_req,
> num_discarded
Better.
>
> Then user might think "We can keep on using real-time mode or batch mode
> discard, because our freed pages are increased continuously shew by the
> num_discarded with sending discard reqs each time.
>
> How do you think?
It's good for your goal and my goal but I will wait Sergey's opinion.
Sergey, does it make sense to you, too?
>
> Thanks,
> Yu
>
> >
> > For it, we should modify zram_free_page has return value.
> > What do other guys think?
> >
> > >
> > > In this patch, we add num_discards to stat discarded pages, and export it to
> > > sysfs for users.
> > >
> > > * From v1
> > > * Update zram document to show num_discards in statistics list.
> > >
> > > * From v2
> > > * Update description of this patch with clear goal.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
> > > ---
> > > Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram | 10 ++++++++++
> > > Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt | 1 +
> > > drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c | 3 +++
> > > drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h | 1 +
> > > 4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > > index 70ec992..fa8936e 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > > +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-block-zram
> > > @@ -57,6 +57,16 @@ Description:
> > > The failed_writes file is read-only and specifies the number of
> > > failed writes happened on this device.
> > >
> > > +
> > > +What: /sys/block/zram<id>/num_discards
> > > +Date: August 2014
> > > +Contact: Chao Yu <chao2.yu@samsung.com>
> > > +Description:
> > > + The num_discards file is read-only and specifies the number of
> > > + physical blocks which are discarded by this device. These blocks
> > > + are included in discard request which is sended by filesystem as
> > > + the blocks are no longer used.
> > > +
> > > What: /sys/block/zram<id>/max_comp_streams
> > > Date: February 2014
> > > Contact: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt b/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt
> > > index 0595c3f..e50e18b 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt
> > > @@ -89,6 +89,7 @@ size of the disk when not in use so a huge zram is wasteful.
> > > num_writes
> > > failed_reads
> > > failed_writes
> > > + num_discards
> > > invalid_io
> > > notify_free
> > > zero_pages
> > > diff --git a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c
> > > index d00831c..904e7a5 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.c
> > > @@ -606,6 +606,7 @@ static void zram_bio_discard(struct zram *zram, u32 index,
> > > bit_spin_lock(ZRAM_ACCESS, &meta->table[index].value);
> > > zram_free_page(zram, index);
> > > bit_spin_unlock(ZRAM_ACCESS, &meta->table[index].value);
> > > + atomic64_inc(&zram->stats.num_discards);
> > > index++;
> > > n -= PAGE_SIZE;
> > > }
> > > @@ -866,6 +867,7 @@ ZRAM_ATTR_RO(num_reads);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(num_writes);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(failed_reads);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(failed_writes);
> > > +ZRAM_ATTR_RO(num_discards);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(invalid_io);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(notify_free);
> > > ZRAM_ATTR_RO(zero_pages);
> > > @@ -879,6 +881,7 @@ static struct attribute *zram_disk_attrs[] = {
> > > &dev_attr_num_writes.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_failed_reads.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_failed_writes.attr,
> > > + &dev_attr_num_discards.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_invalid_io.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_notify_free.attr,
> > > &dev_attr_zero_pages.attr,
> > > diff --git a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h
> > > index e0f725c..2994aaf 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h
> > > +++ b/drivers/block/zram/zram_drv.h
> > > @@ -86,6 +86,7 @@ struct zram_stats {
> > > atomic64_t num_writes; /* --do-- */
> > > atomic64_t failed_reads; /* can happen when memory is too low */
> > > atomic64_t failed_writes; /* can happen when memory is too low */
> > > + atomic64_t num_discards; /* no. of discarded pages */
> > > atomic64_t invalid_io; /* non-page-aligned I/O requests */
> > > atomic64_t notify_free; /* no. of swap slot free notifications */
> > > atomic64_t zero_pages; /* no. of zero filled pages */
> > > --
> > > 2.0.1.474.g72c7794
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
> > > the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
> > > see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
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> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Minchan Kim
>
> --
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-26 5:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-22 8:21 [PATCH v3] zram: add num_discards for discarded pages stat Chao Yu
2014-08-22 8:21 ` Chao Yu
2014-08-25 0:36 ` Minchan Kim
2014-08-25 0:36 ` Minchan Kim
2014-08-25 11:01 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-08-25 11:01 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-08-26 5:08 ` Minchan Kim
2014-08-26 5:08 ` Minchan Kim
2014-08-26 14:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-08-26 14:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-09-04 2:25 ` Minchan Kim
2014-09-04 2:25 ` Minchan Kim
2014-09-04 15:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-09-04 15:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-09-05 0:35 ` Minchan Kim
2014-09-05 0:35 ` Minchan Kim
2014-09-05 11:31 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-09-05 11:31 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2014-08-26 3:05 ` Chao Yu
2014-08-26 3:05 ` Chao Yu
2014-08-26 5:11 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2014-08-26 5:11 ` Minchan Kim
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