From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>,
"kgene.kim@samsung.com" <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
Javier Martinez Canillas <javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"rahul.sharma@samsung.com" <rahul.sharma@samsung.com>,
Prashanth G <prashanth.g@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: Unable to boot mainline on snow chromebook since 3.15
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:17:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140910181701.GL7960@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMgn7F7UoGJmO6K74KE_x+Rw8H2MpzCjBjNOq0g9o1TuNg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 09:36:32AM -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> > As well as the regulators we'll also need to fix the clocks. If we're
> > going to start adding these fixups perhaps we want to consider having a
> > wrapper stage that deals with rewriting DTs prior to trying to use them?
> > I'm not sure if it makes much difference but there's overlap with other
> > tools like the ATAGs conversion wrapper and building separately would
> > let the fixup code run early without directly going into the early init
> > code (which seems a bit scary).
> I'm strongly against doing this outside of the kernel, since they're
> closely tied together today. We've always had the quirk tables for
> devices in the kernel, and we used to do this a long time ago on
> powerpc as well (we did it before we built the flat DT out of the OF
> equivalent there, most of the time).
Indeed - sorry, the above wasn't adequately clear. I think that we
should build this separately but keep it part of the kernel source. The
split I was thinking of was purely technical.
> > As far as I can tell the problem here is coming from the decision to
> > have simplefb use resources without knowing about them - can we agree
> > that this is a bad idea?
> As already argued, there are good reasons to sometimes allow this, as
> long as it can be expected that it's something that's just used during
> early boot. For example, having DEBUG_LL output on a pre-mapped
> framebuffer could be really useful. Once DRM comes up, it'll tear down
> the existing one.
The problem here seems to be that that just during early boot assumption
isn't playing out so well...
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From: broonie@kernel.org (Mark Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Unable to boot mainline on snow chromebook since 3.15
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:17:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140910181701.GL7960@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMgn7F7UoGJmO6K74KE_x+Rw8H2MpzCjBjNOq0g9o1TuNg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 09:36:32AM -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> > As well as the regulators we'll also need to fix the clocks. If we're
> > going to start adding these fixups perhaps we want to consider having a
> > wrapper stage that deals with rewriting DTs prior to trying to use them?
> > I'm not sure if it makes much difference but there's overlap with other
> > tools like the ATAGs conversion wrapper and building separately would
> > let the fixup code run early without directly going into the early init
> > code (which seems a bit scary).
> I'm strongly against doing this outside of the kernel, since they're
> closely tied together today. We've always had the quirk tables for
> devices in the kernel, and we used to do this a long time ago on
> powerpc as well (we did it before we built the flat DT out of the OF
> equivalent there, most of the time).
Indeed - sorry, the above wasn't adequately clear. I think that we
should build this separately but keep it part of the kernel source. The
split I was thinking of was purely technical.
> > As far as I can tell the problem here is coming from the decision to
> > have simplefb use resources without knowing about them - can we agree
> > that this is a bad idea?
> As already argued, there are good reasons to sometimes allow this, as
> long as it can be expected that it's something that's just used during
> early boot. For example, having DEBUG_LL output on a pre-mapped
> framebuffer could be really useful. Once DRM comes up, it'll tear down
> the existing one.
The problem here seems to be that that just during early boot assumption
isn't playing out so well...
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-05 11:57 Unable to boot mainline on snow chromebook since 3.15 Will Deacon
2014-09-05 12:22 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-05 12:22 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-05 13:46 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-05 13:46 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-05 13:56 ` Vivek Gautam
2014-09-05 13:56 ` Vivek Gautam
2014-09-08 11:17 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 11:17 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-05 14:12 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-05 14:12 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-05 20:25 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-05 20:25 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-07 9:06 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 9:06 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 15:01 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-07 15:01 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-07 15:51 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 15:51 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 15:52 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-09-07 15:52 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-09-07 16:12 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 16:12 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 16:19 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-09-07 16:19 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-09-07 16:40 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-07 16:40 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-08 11:21 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 11:21 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 11:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-08 11:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-08 12:46 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 12:46 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 12:20 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-08 12:20 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-08 13:49 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-08 13:49 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-08 14:05 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-08 14:05 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-10 11:17 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-10 11:17 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-10 16:03 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-10 16:03 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-10 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-10 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 15:58 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 15:58 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 19:40 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-08 19:40 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-10 13:06 ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-10 13:06 ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-10 14:31 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 14:31 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 14:56 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-10 14:56 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-10 15:39 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 15:39 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-10 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-10 16:45 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-10 16:45 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-10 19:45 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 19:45 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 19:51 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-10 19:51 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-10 16:57 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-10 16:57 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-11 9:22 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-11 9:22 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-11 18:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-11 18:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-11 22:54 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 22:54 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-29 12:57 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 12:57 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 13:12 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-29 13:12 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-29 16:37 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-29 16:37 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-30 6:12 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 6:12 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 20:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-29 20:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-10 16:36 ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-10 16:36 ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-10 18:17 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2014-09-10 18:17 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-11 9:06 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-11 9:06 ` Grant Likely
2014-09-11 16:16 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-11 16:16 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-08 4:36 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 4:36 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 6:09 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-08 6:09 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-08 15:55 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 15:55 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 16:07 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 16:07 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-08 16:12 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 16:12 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 10:20 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-08 10:20 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-08 4:43 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-08 4:43 ` Doug Anderson
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