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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
	<acme-f8uhVLnGfZaxAyOMLChx1axOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>,
	Richard Cochran
	<richardcochran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt-nx8X9YLhiw1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] perf: Marker software event and ioctl
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:58:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916175834.GA13970@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410885463.12376.24.camel@hornet>


* Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:44 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > I think adding an ioctl to inject user-provided data into the 
> > event stream is sensible, as long as there's a separate 'user 
> > generated data' event for it, etc.
> > 
> > The main usecase I could see would be to introduce a 
> > perf_printf() variant, supported by 'perf trace' by default, to 
> > add various tracable printouts to apps.
> > 
> > Timestamps generated by apps would be another usecase. It would 
> > probably be wise to add a 32-bit (or 64-bit) message type ID, 
> > plus a length field, with a message type registry somewhere in 
> > tools/perf/ (and reference implementation for each new subtype), 
> > to keep things organized yet flexible going forward.
> 
> Right, so this is pretty much what I got talking to Arnaldo...
> 
> >       { u64 type; /* 0 means zero-terminated string in data */
> >         u32 size;
> >         char data[size]; } && PERF_SAMPLE_MARKER
> 
> ... with one type - 0 - defined as a "universal" string (so any 
> possible tool knows what to do about it), the rest being left 
> to userspace (this "registry" you mention).
> 
> Before I proceed any further, is the term "marker" acceptable? 
> Maybe a "printf" instead? Or a "log"? As we know naming is 
> often single most discussed subject when it comes to new things 
> in the kernel ;-)

Well, it's a user-space generated trace/event entry, so lets call 
it that?

Thanks,

	Ingo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-api@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] perf: Marker software event and ioctl
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:58:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916175834.GA13970@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410885463.12376.24.camel@hornet>


* Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 08:44 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > I think adding an ioctl to inject user-provided data into the 
> > event stream is sensible, as long as there's a separate 'user 
> > generated data' event for it, etc.
> > 
> > The main usecase I could see would be to introduce a 
> > perf_printf() variant, supported by 'perf trace' by default, to 
> > add various tracable printouts to apps.
> > 
> > Timestamps generated by apps would be another usecase. It would 
> > probably be wise to add a 32-bit (or 64-bit) message type ID, 
> > plus a length field, with a message type registry somewhere in 
> > tools/perf/ (and reference implementation for each new subtype), 
> > to keep things organized yet flexible going forward.
> 
> Right, so this is pretty much what I got talking to Arnaldo...
> 
> >       { u64 type; /* 0 means zero-terminated string in data */
> >         u32 size;
> >         char data[size]; } && PERF_SAMPLE_MARKER
> 
> ... with one type - 0 - defined as a "universal" string (so any 
> possible tool knows what to do about it), the rest being left 
> to userspace (this "registry" you mention).
> 
> Before I proceed any further, is the term "marker" acceptable? 
> Maybe a "printf" instead? Or a "log"? As we know naming is 
> often single most discussed subject when it comes to new things 
> in the kernel ;-)

Well, it's a user-space generated trace/event entry, so lets call 
it that?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-16 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-12 11:48 [RFC 0/2] Yet another take at user/kernel time correlation problem Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 11:48 ` [RFC 1/2] perf: Add sampling of the raw monotonic clock Pawel Moll
     [not found] ` <1410522513-1045-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 11:48   ` [RFC 2/2] perf: Marker software event and ioctl Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 11:48     ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]     ` <1410522513-1045-3-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 12:43       ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 12:43         ` Christopher Covington
     [not found]         ` <5412EA7A.9020807-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 12:57           ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 12:57             ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 13:49             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-12 13:49               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
     [not found]               ` <20140912134910.GG1801-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 13:58                 ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 13:58                   ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 16:19                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-12 16:19                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
     [not found]                     ` <20140912161934.GJ1801-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 17:27                       ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-15 17:27                         ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-15 18:31                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-15 18:31                           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
     [not found]                           ` <20140915183101.GE11199-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 16:33                             ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-16 16:33                               ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-12 14:00             ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 14:00               ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 17:37       ` David Ahern
2014-09-12 17:37         ` David Ahern
     [not found]         ` <54132F63.1010401-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 20:44           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-12 20:44             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-14 15:43             ` David Ahern
     [not found]               ` <5415B790.5010607-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 17:18                 ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-15 17:18                   ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-16  7:44                 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-16  7:44                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <20140916074421.GA21295-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 16:37                     ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-16 16:37                       ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-16 17:58                       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2014-09-16 17:58                         ` Ingo Molnar

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