From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-aio@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/5] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 07:25:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140922142519.GA27920@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922101221.4bf46809@lwn.net>
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:12:21AM -0400, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> So I'm not contesting this, but I am genuinely curious: do you think
> there are applications out there requesting non-blocking behavior on
> regular files that will then break if they actually get non-blocking
> behavior? I don't suppose you have an example?
You only have to look as far as Samba, but Jeff quoted an old lkml
post earlier that had other examples.
source3/smbd/open.c:
if (first_open_attempt && lp_kernel_oplocks(SNUM(conn))) {
/*
* With kernel oplocks the open breaking an oplock
* blocks until the oplock holder has given up the
* oplock or closed the file. We prevent this by first
* trying to open the file with O_NONBLOCK (see "man
* fcntl" on Linux). For the second try, triggered by
* an oplock break response, we do not need this
* anymore.
*
* This is true under the assumption that only Samba
* requests kernel oplocks. Once someone else like
* NFSv4 starts to use that API, we will have to
* modify this by communicating with the NFSv4 server.
*/
flags2 |= O_NONBLOCK;
}
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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-aio@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/5] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 07:25:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140922142519.GA27920@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922101221.4bf46809@lwn.net>
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:12:21AM -0400, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> So I'm not contesting this, but I am genuinely curious: do you think
> there are applications out there requesting non-blocking behavior on
> regular files that will then break if they actually get non-blocking
> behavior? I don't suppose you have an example?
You only have to look as far as Samba, but Jeff quoted an old lkml
post earlier that had other examples.
source3/smbd/open.c:
if (first_open_attempt && lp_kernel_oplocks(SNUM(conn))) {
/*
* With kernel oplocks the open breaking an oplock
* blocks until the oplock holder has given up the
* oplock or closed the file. We prevent this by first
* trying to open the file with O_NONBLOCK (see "man
* fcntl" on Linux). For the second try, triggered by
* an oplock break response, we do not need this
* anymore.
*
* This is true under the assumption that only Samba
* requests kernel oplocks. Once someone else like
* NFSv4 starts to use that API, we will have to
* modify this by communicating with the NFSv4 server.
*/
flags2 |= O_NONBLOCK;
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-22 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-15 20:20 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/7] Prepare for adding a new readv/writev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:28 ` Al Viro
2014-09-15 21:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:44 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 21:44 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` [PATCH 2/7] Define new syscalls readv2,preadv2,writev2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:20 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:20 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:54 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:54 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 21:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 21:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-17 15:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 15:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 16:05 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 16:05 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 16:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 16:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 17:24 ` Zach Brown
2014-09-17 17:24 ` Zach Brown
2014-09-15 20:20 ` [PATCH 3/7] Export new vector IO (with flags) to userland Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:21 ` [PATCH 4/7] O_NONBLOCK flag for readv2/preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:21 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:19 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:19 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:44 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:44 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:53 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:53 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 20:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] documentation updates Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 20:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 20:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] move flags enforcement to vfs_preadv/vfs_pwritev Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 21:45 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 21:45 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:22 ` [PATCH 7/7] check for O_NONBLOCK in all read_iter instances Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-15 20:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 19:27 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:27 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:45 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 19:45 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 21:42 ` Dave Chinner
2014-09-16 21:42 ` Dave Chinner
2014-09-17 12:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 12:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 13:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 13:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 13:56 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 13:56 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 15:33 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 15:33 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 15:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 15:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-17 15:52 ` Zach Brown
2014-09-17 15:52 ` Zach Brown
2014-09-16 21:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 21:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 21:24 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 21:24 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 20:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 20:27 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 21:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2014-09-15 22:13 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 22:13 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 22:36 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-09-15 22:36 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-09-16 18:24 ` Zach Brown
2014-09-16 18:24 ` Zach Brown
2014-09-19 11:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-22 15:48 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 15:48 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 16:32 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 16:32 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 16:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-22 17:02 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 17:02 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 16:25 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-09-15 21:58 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 21:58 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-15 22:27 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-15 22:27 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 13:44 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 13:44 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-19 11:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-16 19:30 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 19:30 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 20:34 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 20:34 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-16 20:49 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-16 20:49 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-17 14:49 ` [RFC 1/2] aio: async readahead Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 14:49 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 15:26 ` [RFC 2/2] ext4: async readpage for indirect style inodes Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 15:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-19 11:26 ` [RFC 1/2] aio: async readahead Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 16:01 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-19 16:01 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 0/5] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 1/5] Prepare for adding a new readv/writev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 2/5] Define new syscalls readv2,preadv2,writev2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-18 18:48 ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-09-18 18:48 ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-09-19 10:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 10:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-20 0:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-09-20 0:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 3/5] Export new vector IO (with flags) to userland Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 4/5] O_NONBLOCK flag for readv2/preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 11:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:59 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 11:59 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 17:12 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 17:12 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-17 22:20 ` [RFC v2 5/5] Check for O_NONBLOCK in all read_iter instances Milosz Tanski
2014-09-17 22:20 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 11:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 11:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-19 14:42 ` [RFC v2 0/5] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Jonathan Corbet
2014-09-19 14:42 ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-09-19 16:13 ` Volker Lendecke
2014-09-19 16:13 ` Volker Lendecke
2014-09-19 17:19 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 17:19 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 17:33 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-19 17:33 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 14:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-09-22 14:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
2014-09-22 14:24 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 14:24 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-09-22 14:25 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2014-09-22 14:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-22 14:30 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-22 14:30 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` [RFC v3 0/4] vfs: " Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` [RFC v3 1/4] vfs: Prepare for adding a new preadv/pwritev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` [RFC v3 2/4] vfs: Define new syscalls preadv2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` [RFC v3 3/4] vfs: Export new vector IO syscalls (with flags) to userland Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` [RFC v3 4/4] vfs: RWF_NONBLOCK flag for preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2014-09-24 21:46 ` Milosz Tanski
[not found] ` <cover.1411594644.git.milosz-B5zB6C1i6pkAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 4:06 ` [RFC v3 0/4] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Michael Kerrisk
2014-09-25 4:06 ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-09-25 11:16 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-25 11:16 ` Jan Kara
2014-09-25 15:48 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-09-25 15:48 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-10-08 2:53 ` Milosz Tanski
2014-10-08 2:53 ` Milosz Tanski
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