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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Al Stone <ahs3@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Robert Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Charles.Garcia-Tobin@arm.com, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Graeme Gregory <graeme>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 00:07:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140922230758.GA11987@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5420A8F4.20909@redhat.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 04:55:48PM -0600, Al Stone wrote:

> Exactly so.  Or, collaborate with the hardware vendor, or a distro
> or anyone else that is a Promoter or Contributor as defined by UEFI
> [0].  The only thing to keep clear when doing so is who owns the
> intellectual property for any proposed change; this is one of the
> reasons the UEFI Forum has paid membership levels -- to pay for the
> legal assistance to make sure that the specs can be freely used.  As
> someone who is part of the ASWG, I'd personally be glad to help out
> however I can in this regard.

No, it's not about IP ownership, it's about whether those contributing 
the IP have waived patent rights. All contributors to a UEFI spec must 
be members - it's not acceptable for a member to contribute material on 
behalf of a non-member.

> I'm also curious as to what's being referred to as ACPI support
> code for large x86 vendors which is not part of the spec; I *think*
> I know what's being described but a specific example would really
> help me understand better.

Almost everything in drivers/platform/x86, the ACPI support code under 
drivers/gpu, the PCC code for HP servers, some of the USB-ACPI glue 
(defined by a Microsoft spec), some of the ACPI/TPM integration (defined 
by TCG), some hwmon code, probably a few other bits and pieces.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: mjg59@srcf.ucam.org (Matthew Garrett)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 00:07:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140922230758.GA11987@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5420A8F4.20909@redhat.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 04:55:48PM -0600, Al Stone wrote:

> Exactly so.  Or, collaborate with the hardware vendor, or a distro
> or anyone else that is a Promoter or Contributor as defined by UEFI
> [0].  The only thing to keep clear when doing so is who owns the
> intellectual property for any proposed change; this is one of the
> reasons the UEFI Forum has paid membership levels -- to pay for the
> legal assistance to make sure that the specs can be freely used.  As
> someone who is part of the ASWG, I'd personally be glad to help out
> however I can in this regard.

No, it's not about IP ownership, it's about whether those contributing 
the IP have waived patent rights. All contributors to a UEFI spec must 
be members - it's not acceptable for a member to contribute material on 
behalf of a non-member.

> I'm also curious as to what's being referred to as ACPI support
> code for large x86 vendors which is not part of the spec; I *think*
> I know what's being described but a specific example would really
> help me understand better.

Almost everything in drivers/platform/x86, the ACPI support code under 
drivers/gpu, the PCC code for HP servers, some of the USB-ACPI glue 
(defined by a Microsoft spec), some of the ACPI/TPM integration (defined 
by TCG), some hwmon code, probably a few other bits and pieces.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Al Stone <ahs3@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Robert Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Charles.Garcia-Tobin@arm.com, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@arm.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 00:07:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140922230758.GA11987@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5420A8F4.20909@redhat.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 04:55:48PM -0600, Al Stone wrote:

> Exactly so.  Or, collaborate with the hardware vendor, or a distro
> or anyone else that is a Promoter or Contributor as defined by UEFI
> [0].  The only thing to keep clear when doing so is who owns the
> intellectual property for any proposed change; this is one of the
> reasons the UEFI Forum has paid membership levels -- to pay for the
> legal assistance to make sure that the specs can be freely used.  As
> someone who is part of the ASWG, I'd personally be glad to help out
> however I can in this regard.

No, it's not about IP ownership, it's about whether those contributing 
the IP have waived patent rights. All contributors to a UEFI spec must 
be members - it's not acceptable for a member to contribute material on 
behalf of a non-member.

> I'm also curious as to what's being referred to as ACPI support
> code for large x86 vendors which is not part of the spec; I *think*
> I know what's being described but a specific example would really
> help me understand better.

Almost everything in drivers/platform/x86, the ACPI support code under 
drivers/gpu, the PCC code for HP servers, some of the USB-ACPI glue 
(defined by a Microsoft spec), some of the ACPI/TPM integration (defined 
by TCG), some hwmon code, probably a few other bits and pieces.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-22 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 247+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-12 13:59 [PATCH v4 00/18] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 13:59 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 13:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/18] ARM64: Move the init of cpu_logical_map(0) before unflatten_device_tree() Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 13:59   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 19:34   ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 19:34     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15  6:16   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:16     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:16     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-17 16:48     ` Mark Rutland
2014-09-17 16:48       ` Mark Rutland
2014-09-17 16:48       ` Mark Rutland
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/18] ACPI / table: Add new function to get table entries Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15 16:48   ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 16:48     ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 16:48     ` Grant Likely
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/18] ACPI / table: Count matched and successfully parsed entries without specifying max entries Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15 16:48   ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 16:48     ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 16:48     ` Grant Likely
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Get RSDP and ACPI boot-time tables Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce sleep-arm.c Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:51   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 14:51     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 14:51     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 15:18     ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 15:18       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 15:18       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 15:49       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 15:49         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 15:49         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 16:32         ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 16:32           ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 16:32           ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-17  1:31         ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:31           ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:31           ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-12 19:43   ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 19:43     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 20:03     ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 20:03       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 20:03       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-12 21:10       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 21:10         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 21:10         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15  6:28   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:28     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:28     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 14:51     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 14:51       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 14:51       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 16:09       ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 16:09         ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 16:09         ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 16:31       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 16:31         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 16:31         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 22:55     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15 22:55       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15 22:55       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/18] ARM64 / ACPI: If we chose to boot from acpi then disable FDT Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse FADT table to get PSCI flags for PSCI init Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15  6:38   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:38     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:38     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 14:54     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 14:54       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 14:54       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 23:24       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 23:24         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 23:24         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 23:34     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15 23:34       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15 23:34       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/18] ACPI / table: Print GIC information when MADT is parsed Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15  6:40   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:40     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  6:40     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 14:11     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 14:11       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 14:11       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 17:52     ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 17:52       ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 17:52       ` Grant Likely
2014-09-15 18:01       ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 18:01         ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 18:01         ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15 21:55         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 21:55           ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 21:55           ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 11/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse MADT for SMP initialization Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 19:47   ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 19:47     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 19:47     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 14:56     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 14:56       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 14:56       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 23:19       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 23:19         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 23:19         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15  7:00   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:00     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:00     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-16  0:01     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-16  0:01       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-16  0:01       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/18] ACPI / processor: Make it possible to get CPU hardware ID via GICC Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15  7:05   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:05     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:05     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-16  0:11     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-16  0:11       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-16  0:11       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC and register device's gsi Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 14/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Add GICv2 specific ACPI boot support Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 19:48   ` Jon Masters
2014-09-12 19:48     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 15:01   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 15:01     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 15:01     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 16:16     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 16:16       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 16:16       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-15 16:42       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 16:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 16:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-17  7:40         ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-09-17  7:40           ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-09-17  7:40           ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-09-17 15:14           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-17 15:14             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-17 15:14             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-18  2:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-18  2:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-18  2:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-18 16:00               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-18 16:00                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-18 16:00                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 15/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse GTDT to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15  7:13   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:13     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:13     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 16/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 17/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00 ` [PATCH v4 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-09-12 14:00   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-15  7:33   ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:33     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-15  7:33     ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-17  1:44   ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:44     ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:44     ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:57     ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:57       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  1:57       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17  8:58     ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17  8:58       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17  8:58       ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17 17:02       ` Mark Brown
2014-09-17 17:02         ` Mark Brown
2014-09-17 17:02         ` Mark Brown
2014-09-17 16:05     ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-17 16:05       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-17 16:05       ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-17 23:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-17 23:22         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-17 23:22         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-17 23:40         ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-17 23:40           ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-17 23:40           ` Graeme Gregory
2014-09-18 15:54           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-18 15:54             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-18 15:54             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-18 23:20           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-18 23:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-18 23:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-18 23:59             ` Jon Masters
2014-09-18 23:59               ` Jon Masters
2014-09-18 23:59               ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17 19:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-17 19:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-17 19:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-17 19:22       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17 19:22         ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17 19:22         ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17 19:29         ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17 19:29           ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17 19:29           ` Jon Masters
2014-09-17 20:11         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-17 20:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-17 20:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-17 19:59           ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17 19:59             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17 19:59             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-17 23:06           ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-17 23:06             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-17 23:06             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-22 19:48   ` Pavel Machek
2014-09-22 19:48     ` Pavel Machek
2014-09-22 19:48     ` Pavel Machek
2014-09-22 20:31     ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 20:31       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 20:31       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:46       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 22:46         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 22:46         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 22:28         ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:28           ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:28           ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:34           ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-22 22:34             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-22 22:34             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-09-22 22:38             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:38               ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:38               ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 23:22             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 23:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 23:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 22:55         ` Al Stone
2014-09-22 22:55           ` Al Stone
2014-09-22 22:55           ` Al Stone
2014-09-22 23:07           ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2014-09-22 23:07             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 23:07             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-09-22 22:40     ` Al Stone
2014-09-22 22:40       ` Al Stone
2014-09-22 22:40       ` Al Stone

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