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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Chen, Hanxiao" <chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Richard Weinberger
	<richard.weinberger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org"
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mguzik-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to ns
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:05:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140930160549.GA6838@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5871495633F38949900D2BF2DC04883E5CF0D5-ZEd+hNNJ6a5ZYpXjqAkB5jz3u5zwRJJDAzI0kPv9QBlmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Chen, Hanxiao (chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org):
> Hi,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Serge E. Hallyn [mailto:serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org]
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to
> > ns
> [snip]
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds four fields: NStgid, NSpid, NSpgid and NSsid:
> > > > a) In init_pid_ns, nothing changed;
> > > >
> > > > b) In one pidns, will tell the pid inside containers:
> > > > NStgid:	21776   5       1
> > > > NSpid:  21776   5       1
> > > > NSpgid:	21776   5       1
> > > > NSsid:  21729   1       0
> > > > ** Process id is 21776 in level 0, 5 in level 1, 1 in level 2.
> > > >
> > > > c) If pidns is nested, it depends on which pidns are you in.
> > > > NStgid: 5       1
> > > > NSpid:  5       1
> > > > NSpgid: 5       1
> > > > NSsid:  1       0
> > > > ** Views from level 1
> > > >
> > >
> > > This patch is simple, useful and safe.
> > > But currently there is not any feedbacks.
> > >
> > > Any comments or ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks, Chen.  The code looks fine.  My concern is that you are
> > exposing information which cannot be checkpointed and restarted.
> > In particular, if I'm inside a nested container, so I'm in pidns
> > level 3, then my own NSpid info, when I read it, will show the
> > pids at parent namespaces.  If I'm restarted at the third pidns
> > level, only the one pid can be restored.
> 
> If you're in level 3, read your own proc, only level 3's NSpid info
> will be shown. No parent namesapces info could be seen.

D'oh!  Sorry, I see, you're starting at ns->level.  And ns is the ns
of the proc mount, not the caller.  that looks good.

So

Acked-by: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>

> Only if not providing a procfs mount point for the new container,
> and without a proper pivot_root,
> we could see some NSpid info of parent ns.
> 
> If each new container got their own procfs mount point,
> only its and its child's NSpid info could be seen.
> 
> > 
> > Now it may be fair to say "this is proc, and proc and sys show
> > host info which is not containerized and cannot be checkpointed
> > and restarted, deal with it."  But I'm not sure.
> > 
> > There are two ways you could deal with this.  One would be to
> > show the nspids only to the level of the reader of the file - but
> > I don't think you need to do that.  I think you're better off
> > simply showing the pids up to the level of the struct pid for
> > the mounter of the procfs.  So if I'm inside container c2 which
> > is inside container c1, my own /proc will only show pids which
> > are valid in c2 (and any child namespaces), while the /proc
> > mounted in c1 will show pids valid in c1 and c2 (and any children),
> > but not those in the init_pid_ns.  It's then just up to the
> > container administrators to make sure that c2 cannot see c1's
> > /proc to confuse itself and confuddle checkpoint-restart
> 
> IIUC, this patch already deal with this scenario:
> 
> +	for (g = ns->level; g <= pid->level; g++)
> +		seq_printf(m, "\t%d ",
> +			task_tgid_nr_ns(p, pid->numbers[g].ns));
> 
> With this patch, it did like
> a) in init_pid_ns, check /proc/21776/status
> NStgid:	21776   5       1
> 
> b) in c1, check /proc/5/status:
> NStgid:	5       1
> 
> c) in c2, check /proc/1/status:
> NStgid:	1
> 
> Thanks,
> - Chen

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: "Chen, Hanxiao" <chenhanxiao@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"containers@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Pavel Emelyanov (xemul@parallels.com)" <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to ns
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:05:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140930160549.GA6838@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5871495633F38949900D2BF2DC04883E5CF0D5@G08CNEXMBPEKD02.g08.fujitsu.local>

Quoting Chen, Hanxiao (chenhanxiao@cn.fujitsu.com):
> Hi,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Serge E. Hallyn [mailto:serge@hallyn.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to
> > ns
> [snip]
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds four fields: NStgid, NSpid, NSpgid and NSsid:
> > > > a) In init_pid_ns, nothing changed;
> > > >
> > > > b) In one pidns, will tell the pid inside containers:
> > > > NStgid:	21776   5       1
> > > > NSpid:  21776   5       1
> > > > NSpgid:	21776   5       1
> > > > NSsid:  21729   1       0
> > > > ** Process id is 21776 in level 0, 5 in level 1, 1 in level 2.
> > > >
> > > > c) If pidns is nested, it depends on which pidns are you in.
> > > > NStgid: 5       1
> > > > NSpid:  5       1
> > > > NSpgid: 5       1
> > > > NSsid:  1       0
> > > > ** Views from level 1
> > > >
> > >
> > > This patch is simple, useful and safe.
> > > But currently there is not any feedbacks.
> > >
> > > Any comments or ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks, Chen.  The code looks fine.  My concern is that you are
> > exposing information which cannot be checkpointed and restarted.
> > In particular, if I'm inside a nested container, so I'm in pidns
> > level 3, then my own NSpid info, when I read it, will show the
> > pids at parent namespaces.  If I'm restarted at the third pidns
> > level, only the one pid can be restored.
> 
> If you're in level 3, read your own proc, only level 3's NSpid info
> will be shown. No parent namesapces info could be seen.

D'oh!  Sorry, I see, you're starting at ns->level.  And ns is the ns
of the proc mount, not the caller.  that looks good.

So

Acked-by: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>

> Only if not providing a procfs mount point for the new container,
> and without a proper pivot_root,
> we could see some NSpid info of parent ns.
> 
> If each new container got their own procfs mount point,
> only its and its child's NSpid info could be seen.
> 
> > 
> > Now it may be fair to say "this is proc, and proc and sys show
> > host info which is not containerized and cannot be checkpointed
> > and restarted, deal with it."  But I'm not sure.
> > 
> > There are two ways you could deal with this.  One would be to
> > show the nspids only to the level of the reader of the file - but
> > I don't think you need to do that.  I think you're better off
> > simply showing the pids up to the level of the struct pid for
> > the mounter of the procfs.  So if I'm inside container c2 which
> > is inside container c1, my own /proc will only show pids which
> > are valid in c2 (and any child namespaces), while the /proc
> > mounted in c1 will show pids valid in c1 and c2 (and any children),
> > but not those in the init_pid_ns.  It's then just up to the
> > container administrators to make sure that c2 cannot see c1's
> > /proc to confuse itself and confuddle checkpoint-restart
> 
> IIUC, this patch already deal with this scenario:
> 
> +	for (g = ns->level; g <= pid->level; g++)
> +		seq_printf(m, "\t%d ",
> +			task_tgid_nr_ns(p, pid->numbers[g].ns));
> 
> With this patch, it did like
> a) in init_pid_ns, check /proc/21776/status
> NStgid:	21776   5       1
> 
> b) in c1, check /proc/5/status:
> NStgid:	5       1
> 
> c) in c2, check /proc/1/status:
> NStgid:	1
> 
> Thanks,
> - Chen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-30 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-24 10:00 [PATCHv3 0/2] ns, procfs: pid conversion between ns and showing pidns hierarchy Chen Hanxiao
2014-09-24 10:00 ` Chen Hanxiao
     [not found] ` <1411552827-31056-1-git-send-email-chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 10:00   ` [PATCHv3 1/2] procfs: show hierarchy of pid namespace Chen Hanxiao
2014-09-24 10:00     ` Chen Hanxiao
     [not found]     ` <1411552827-31056-2-git-send-email-chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 17:45       ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-09-24 17:45         ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-09-25  9:45         ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-09-25  9:45           ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-09-24 10:00   ` [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to ns Chen Hanxiao
2014-09-24 10:00     ` Chen Hanxiao
     [not found]     ` <1411552827-31056-3-git-send-email-chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 12:52       ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-09-25 12:52         ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-09-26 10:20       ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-09-26 10:20         ` Chen, Hanxiao
     [not found]         ` <5871495633F38949900D2BF2DC04883E5C7377-ZEd+hNNJ6a5ZYpXjqAkB5jz3u5zwRJJDAzI0kPv9QBlmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 14:00           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-09-29 14:00             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20140929140010.GA20069-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-30 10:37               ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-09-30 10:37                 ` Chen, Hanxiao
     [not found]                 ` <5871495633F38949900D2BF2DC04883E5CF0D5-ZEd+hNNJ6a5ZYpXjqAkB5jz3u5zwRJJDAzI0kPv9QBlmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-30 16:05                   ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2014-09-30 16:05                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20140930160549.GA6838-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-30 16:07                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-09-30 16:07                         ` Serge E. Hallyn

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