From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/6] SRCU free VMAs
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:07:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141021080740.GJ23531@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwd04q+O5ejbmDL-H7_GB6DEBMiiHkn+2R1u4uWxfDO9w@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 04:41:45PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > Manage the VMAs with SRCU such that we can do a lockless VMA lookup.
>
> Can you explain why srcu, and not plain regular rcu?
>
> Especially as you then *note* some of the problems srcu can have.
> Making it regular rcu would also seem to make it possible to make the
> seqlock be just a seqcount, no?
Because we need to hold onto the RCU read side lock across the entire
fault, which can involve IO and all kinds of other blocking ops.
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/6] SRCU free VMAs
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:07:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141021080740.GJ23531@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwd04q+O5ejbmDL-H7_GB6DEBMiiHkn+2R1u4uWxfDO9w@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 04:41:45PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > Manage the VMAs with SRCU such that we can do a lockless VMA lookup.
>
> Can you explain why srcu, and not plain regular rcu?
>
> Especially as you then *note* some of the problems srcu can have.
> Making it regular rcu would also seem to make it possible to make the
> seqlock be just a seqcount, no?
Because we need to hold onto the RCU read side lock across the entire
fault, which can involve IO and all kinds of other blocking ops.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-21 8:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-20 21:56 [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Another go at speculative page faults Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] mm: VMA sequence count Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:53 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:53 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 12:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-23 12:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-23 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 15:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-23 15:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] SRCU free VMAs Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 23:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-20 23:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-21 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-10-21 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 15:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-24 15:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-24 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-24 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-21 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 10:14 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-23 10:14 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-23 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 3:33 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-24 3:33 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-24 7:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 7:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 8:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-21 8:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-21 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 19:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 19:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] mm,x86: Add speculative pagefault handling Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-20 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 0:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Another go at speculative page faults Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21 0:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-21 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-21 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-21 17:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-21 17:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-21 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 10:40 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-23 10:40 ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-10-23 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-23 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-24 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-24 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-24 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 5:32 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-10-28 5:32 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-10-21 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-21 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-22 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-22 7:34 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-10-22 7:34 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-10-22 11:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-22 11:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-22 11:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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