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From: Alban Bedel <alban.bedel-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alban Bedel
	<alban.bedel-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Grant Likely
	<grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] devicetree: add a binding for a group of regulator
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:32:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141124183204.79f3487e@avionic-0020> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141124152433.GD7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:24:33 +0000
Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:02:02PM +0100, Alban Bedel wrote:
> 
> > +This binding allow creating a group of regulators for use with simple
> > +drivers that only expect a single power supply. Additionally it is
> > +possible to enforce the enable ordering to create simple power up
> > +sequences.
> 
> Absoutely not, this sort of scripting is not sensible - if the consumer
> device has multiple supplies the consumer device should be working with
> them independently and if the consumer has ordering constraints it needs
> to enforce them itself.  Trying to solve this problem with a bodge in
> the regulator API just isn't the right place, leaving aside the above
> most power sequences involve things other than regulators like clocks
> and reset signals so just doing things purely at the regulator API level
> isn't ging to solve the problem.  
> 
> Please look for the generic power sequence stuff that was getting
> discussed a while back and try to resurrect that if you feel there's a
> compelling reason to have this functionality without doing it for
> drivers.

Honestly my primary aim wasn't the sequencing, but rather to increase
the usefulness of generic drivers. Generic driver generally only
manipulate a single supply, however many hardware might have more,
and won't need any specific power up ordering. Having to write a full
new driver just because of an extra supply doesn't seems to make much
sense to me.

As alternative solution to this problem I though about allowing a list
of regulator for the supplies:

 vin-supply = <&reg1>, <&reg2>;

The API could still return a single consumer but it would operate on
all the regulators in the list instead of just one. Would that be a
better solution?

Alban

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From: Alban Bedel <alban.bedel@avionic-design.de>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Alban Bedel <alban.bedel@avionic-design.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] devicetree: add a binding for a group of regulator
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:32:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141124183204.79f3487e@avionic-0020> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141124152433.GD7712@sirena.org.uk>

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:24:33 +0000
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:02:02PM +0100, Alban Bedel wrote:
> 
> > +This binding allow creating a group of regulators for use with simple
> > +drivers that only expect a single power supply. Additionally it is
> > +possible to enforce the enable ordering to create simple power up
> > +sequences.
> 
> Absoutely not, this sort of scripting is not sensible - if the consumer
> device has multiple supplies the consumer device should be working with
> them independently and if the consumer has ordering constraints it needs
> to enforce them itself.  Trying to solve this problem with a bodge in
> the regulator API just isn't the right place, leaving aside the above
> most power sequences involve things other than regulators like clocks
> and reset signals so just doing things purely at the regulator API level
> isn't ging to solve the problem.  
> 
> Please look for the generic power sequence stuff that was getting
> discussed a while back and try to resurrect that if you feel there's a
> compelling reason to have this functionality without doing it for
> drivers.

Honestly my primary aim wasn't the sequencing, but rather to increase
the usefulness of generic drivers. Generic driver generally only
manipulate a single supply, however many hardware might have more,
and won't need any specific power up ordering. Having to write a full
new driver just because of an extra supply doesn't seems to make much
sense to me.

As alternative solution to this problem I though about allowing a list
of regulator for the supplies:

 vin-supply = <&reg1>, <&reg2>;

The API could still return a single consumer but it would operate on
all the regulators in the list instead of just one. Would that be a
better solution?

Alban

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-24 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-24 13:02 [PATCH 1/4] devicetree: add a binding for a regulator that constrains its supply Alban Bedel
2014-11-24 13:02 ` Alban Bedel
2014-11-24 13:02 ` [PATCH 2/4] regulator: add a regulator that constrain " Alban Bedel
2014-11-24 13:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] devicetree: add a binding for a group of regulator Alban Bedel
     [not found]   ` <1416834123-23139-3-git-send-email-alban.bedel-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 15:24     ` Mark Brown
2014-11-24 15:24       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]       ` <20141124152433.GD7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 17:32         ` Alban Bedel [this message]
2014-11-24 17:32           ` Alban Bedel
2014-11-24 17:55           ` Mark Brown
2014-11-24 17:55             ` Mark Brown
2014-11-24 13:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] regulator: add a regulator group driver Alban Bedel
     [not found] ` <1416834123-23139-1-git-send-email-alban.bedel-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 15:15   ` [PATCH 1/4] devicetree: add a binding for a regulator that constrains its supply Mark Brown
2014-11-24 15:15     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20141124151527.GC7712-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 17:12       ` Alban Bedel
2014-11-24 17:12         ` Alban Bedel
2014-11-24 18:04         ` Mark Brown

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