From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <srostedt@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:30:54 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141125193054.GA12902@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5474D121.4070905@redhat.com>
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 01:57:37PM -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 11/25/2014 12:21 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > The problem:
> >
> > On -RT, an emulated LAPIC timer instances has the following path:
> >
> > 1) hard interrupt
> > 2) ksoftirqd is scheduled
> > 3) ksoftirqd wakes up vcpu thread
> > 4) vcpu thread is scheduled
> >
> > This extra context switch introduces unnecessary latency in the
> > LAPIC path for a KVM guest.
> >
> > The solution:
> >
> > Allow waking up vcpu thread from hardirq context,
> > thus avoiding the need for ksoftirqd to be scheduled.
> >
> > Normal waitqueues make use of spinlocks, which on -RT
> > are sleepable locks. Therefore, waking up a waitqueue
> > waiter involves locking a sleeping lock, which
> > is not allowed from hard interrupt context.
> >
>
> What are the consequences for the realtime kernel of
> making waitqueue traversal non-preemptible?
>
> Is waitqueue traversal something that ever takes so
> long we need to care about it being non-preemptible?
commit d872cfa018625071a3a6b1ea8a62a2790d2c157a
Author: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Date: Mon Dec 12 12:29:04 2011 +0100
wait-simple: Simple waitqueue implementation
wait_queue is a swiss army knife and in most of the cases the
complexity is not needed. For RT waitqueues are a constant source of
trouble as we can't convert the head lock to a raw spinlock due to
fancy and long lasting callbacks.
Unsure about the details...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-25 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-25 17:21 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 17:21 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 18:57 ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-25 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-25 19:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2014-11-25 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-25 17:21 ` [patch -rt 2/2] KVM: lapic: mark LAPIC timer handler as irqsafe Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 17:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-25 17:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-25 19:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2014-12-04 13:43 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 19:11 ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-25 20:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-04 13:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-04 13:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-05 16:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-08 23:33 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v5) Marcelo Tosatti
2015-04-08 23:33 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-21 20:36 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v4) Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-21 20:36 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-14 17:12 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v3) Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-14 17:12 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-14 18:22 ` Rik van Riel
2015-01-16 16:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-16 16:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-17 7:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-19 14:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-20 5:46 ` Paul Mackerras
2015-01-20 18:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-21 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 17:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-02-18 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-25 21:02 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-08-07 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-07 11:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-07 11:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-07 16:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-07 16:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-09 6:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-17 20:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-02-27 0:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-05 1:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-05 1:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-05 7:42 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-03-06 13:54 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2014-11-25 16:45 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 16:45 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
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