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From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven
	<geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux I2C <linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	dmaengine-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] i2c: sh_mobile: add DMA support
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:13:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141215064306.GN16827@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1729516.HWbfnj3Cpn@avalon>

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:52:10PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Thursday 11 December 2014 22:47:32 Wolfram Sang wrote:
> > > > Note that the I2C drives uses subsys_initcall() for historic reasons,
> > > > while the DMA driver uses module_init(). This is hard to revert without
> > > > introducing potential regressions on older boards. So, the I2C DMA
> > > > support needs to handle deferred probe definately. I am with Laurent, I
> > > > don't see any other way, but I'd be glad to be enlightened...
> > > 
> > > While I believe that requesting the channel at transfer time is the good
> > > solution, I think we should still try to move to module initcalls where
> > > possible. The risk of regressions is real so proper testing is needed. My
> > > question is, have you tried it ?
> > 
> > I would need to test all boards using this driver to not fail booting.
> > Usually I2C drivers are moved to subsys_initcall because they need
> > access to something critical (PMIC, GPIOs...) early. I don't see a sane
> > way to do that testing.
> 
> Still, I would like to get a better view on the problems we should expect, by 
> testing this on the latest boards for instance.
> 
> > Other than that, even if we move to module_init, we reduce the chance of
> > getting a deferred probe, but we do not eliminate it...
> 
> Sure, but reducing the chance of deferred probe is a good idea in my opinion 
> :-)
Okay so what is the issue here, this statement is a bit worrying. Why do
you guys want to reduce the chance of deferred probe? I assumed that issue was
the channels availability...

-- 
~Vinod

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From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven
	<geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux I2C <linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	dmaengine-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] i2c: sh_mobile: add DMA support
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 06:55:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141215064306.GN16827@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1729516.HWbfnj3Cpn@avalon>

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:52:10PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Thursday 11 December 2014 22:47:32 Wolfram Sang wrote:
> > > > Note that the I2C drives uses subsys_initcall() for historic reasons,
> > > > while the DMA driver uses module_init(). This is hard to revert without
> > > > introducing potential regressions on older boards. So, the I2C DMA
> > > > support needs to handle deferred probe definately. I am with Laurent, I
> > > > don't see any other way, but I'd be glad to be enlightened...
> > > 
> > > While I believe that requesting the channel at transfer time is the good
> > > solution, I think we should still try to move to module initcalls where
> > > possible. The risk of regressions is real so proper testing is needed. My
> > > question is, have you tried it ?
> > 
> > I would need to test all boards using this driver to not fail booting.
> > Usually I2C drivers are moved to subsys_initcall because they need
> > access to something critical (PMIC, GPIOs...) early. I don't see a sane
> > way to do that testing.
> 
> Still, I would like to get a better view on the problems we should expect, by 
> testing this on the latest boards for instance.
> 
> > Other than that, even if we move to module_init, we reduce the chance of
> > getting a deferred probe, but we do not eliminate it...
> 
> Sure, but reducing the chance of deferred probe is a good idea in my opinion 
> :-)
Okay so what is the issue here, this statement is a bit worrying. Why do
you guys want to reduce the chance of deferred probe? I assumed that issue was
the channels availability...

-- 
~Vinod

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-15  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 10:11 [PATCH 0/5] i2c: sh_mobile: add DMA support Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11 ` [PATCH 1/5] i2c: sh_mobile: sort includes alphabetically Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-12 16:10   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-12 16:10     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11 ` [PATCH 2/5] i2c: sh_mobile: add DMA support Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-12 16:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-12 16:11     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-09 10:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-12-09 10:53     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-12-09 14:09     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-09 14:09       ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-10  5:44       ` Magnus Damm
2014-12-10  5:44         ` Magnus Damm
2014-12-10  8:01         ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-10  8:01           ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-10 14:19           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-10 14:19             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-10 14:23             ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-10 14:23               ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11  5:02               ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-11  5:14                 ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-11  7:37                 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11  7:37                   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11  7:47                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-11  7:47                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-11  8:28                     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11  8:28                       ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11 21:42               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-11 21:42                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-11 21:47                 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11 21:47                   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-11 21:52                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-11 21:52                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-12 11:07                     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-12 11:07                       ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-15  6:43                     ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2014-12-15  6:55                       ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-15  8:31                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-12-15  8:31                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-12-15  9:06                         ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-15  9:06                           ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-15  9:32                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-12-15  9:32                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-12-15  9:13                         ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-15  9:25                           ` Vinod Koul
     [not found]                           ` <20141215091314.GQ16827-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15  9:42                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15  9:42                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 14:48                               ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-15 14:48                                 ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-15  9:45                           ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-15  9:45                             ` Wolfram Sang
2014-12-15 14:50                             ` Vinod Koul
2014-12-15 14:50                               ` Vinod Koul
2014-11-07 10:11 ` [PATCH 3/5] i2c: sh_mobile: improve success message Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-12 16:12   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-12 16:12     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-13  0:27     ` Simon Horman
2014-11-13  0:27       ` Simon Horman
2014-11-07 10:11 ` [PATCH 4/5] ARM: shmobile: r8a7790: add DMA nodes for IIC Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-13  0:26   ` Simon Horman
2014-11-13  0:26     ` Simon Horman
2014-11-07 10:11 ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: shmobile: r8a7791: " Wolfram Sang
2014-11-07 10:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2014-11-13  0:26   ` Simon Horman
2014-11-13  0:26     ` Simon Horman

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