From: maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com (Maxime Ripard)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [linux-sunxi] Re: Including empty regulator nodes in axp209.dtsi is a BAD idea
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:51:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150115215120.GB5567@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v66Go1z-V8spwHvLHQC1R=vgDsk1nQ6iZWTsy+OMF1kK0w@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:48:53AM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Lars Doelle <lars.doelle@on-line.de> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 17:46:06 Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:39:01AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> > Hi ChenYu, Maxime,
> >> >
> >> > During the review of a few dts files for new boards Maxime asked me to use
> >> > axp209.dtsi to avoid the standard axp209 "boilerplate" present in most
> >> > boards using the axp209 pmic.
> >> >
> >> > But axp209.dtsi includes empty regulator nodes, e.g. :
> >> >
> >> > reg_dcdc3: dcdc3 {
> >> > regulator-name = "dcdc3";
> >> > };
> >> >
> >> > This is a BAD idea, the presence of these empty nodes causes the
> >> > axp20x-regulator driver to actually register regulators for them,
> >> > and then on late_init the regulator subsys turns them off, since
> >> > they have absolutely no constraints set (nor users registered)
> >> > and the regulator subsys assumes that when devicetree is used their
> >> > is always a compete set of constraints and that thus turning them
> >> > off is safe.
> >> >
> >> > So when I switched to using axp209.dtsi for the bananapro.dts,
> >> > and booted the bananapro this is the last message I got from the
> >> > kernel while booting:
> >> >
> >> > [ 2.314014] dcdc3: disabling
> >> >
> >> > And away went our DRAM power-supply, oops.
> >> >
> >> > So for dcdc2 (CPU) and dcdc3 (DRAM), the boilerplate
> >> > should contain reasonable constraints (eg the operating range
> >> > from the datasheet)
> >>
> >> Indeed.
> >
> > It is very unclear to me, what to with this dtsi as it is.
> >
> > Wrt. axp209, I have a specification like in sun7i-a20-olinuxino-lime2.dts.
> > If I include this dtsi, what does it help or how is it supposed to be of any
> > use?
> >
> > In particular, the following section
> >
> > | axp209: pmic at 34 {
> > | compatible = "x-powers,axp209";
> > | reg = <0x34>;
> > | interrupt-parent = <&nmi_intc>;
> > | interrupts = <0 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_LOW>;
> >
> > | interrupt-controller;
> > | #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >
> > | acin-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | vin2-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | vin3-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | ldo24in-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | ldo3in-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
>
> We should not be using reg_axp_ipsout, as it is an unregulated supply,
> and can be left out.
Can it? Doesn't the regulator driver need to know the input voltage?
> > would be needed anyway as it is not in sun7i-a20.dtsi, followed by the
> > regulators, to switch them on. Now a dtsi would make sense, if it shortens
> > the device specific information.
> >
> > Should not the section above together with the full regulators be in axp209.dtsi
> > and only the regulators be mentioned in the boards dts, to switch them on? Isn't
> > this stuff that should be included in sun7i-a20.dtsi anyway, somehow?
>
> It is entirely possible to make a board without using the PMIC, as Olimex
> has demonstrated. sun7i-a20 only describes the common SoC bits.
Or even with a different PMIC.
Maxime
--
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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Subject: Re: Re: Including empty regulator nodes in axp209.dtsi is a BAD idea
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:51:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150115215120.GB5567@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v66Go1z-V8spwHvLHQC1R=vgDsk1nQ6iZWTsy+OMF1kK0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:48:53AM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Lars Doelle <lars.doelle-RMqqONVpFt+ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 17:46:06 Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:39:01AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> > Hi ChenYu, Maxime,
> >> >
> >> > During the review of a few dts files for new boards Maxime asked me to use
> >> > axp209.dtsi to avoid the standard axp209 "boilerplate" present in most
> >> > boards using the axp209 pmic.
> >> >
> >> > But axp209.dtsi includes empty regulator nodes, e.g. :
> >> >
> >> > reg_dcdc3: dcdc3 {
> >> > regulator-name = "dcdc3";
> >> > };
> >> >
> >> > This is a BAD idea, the presence of these empty nodes causes the
> >> > axp20x-regulator driver to actually register regulators for them,
> >> > and then on late_init the regulator subsys turns them off, since
> >> > they have absolutely no constraints set (nor users registered)
> >> > and the regulator subsys assumes that when devicetree is used their
> >> > is always a compete set of constraints and that thus turning them
> >> > off is safe.
> >> >
> >> > So when I switched to using axp209.dtsi for the bananapro.dts,
> >> > and booted the bananapro this is the last message I got from the
> >> > kernel while booting:
> >> >
> >> > [ 2.314014] dcdc3: disabling
> >> >
> >> > And away went our DRAM power-supply, oops.
> >> >
> >> > So for dcdc2 (CPU) and dcdc3 (DRAM), the boilerplate
> >> > should contain reasonable constraints (eg the operating range
> >> > from the datasheet)
> >>
> >> Indeed.
> >
> > It is very unclear to me, what to with this dtsi as it is.
> >
> > Wrt. axp209, I have a specification like in sun7i-a20-olinuxino-lime2.dts.
> > If I include this dtsi, what does it help or how is it supposed to be of any
> > use?
> >
> > In particular, the following section
> >
> > | axp209: pmic@34 {
> > | compatible = "x-powers,axp209";
> > | reg = <0x34>;
> > | interrupt-parent = <&nmi_intc>;
> > | interrupts = <0 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_LOW>;
> >
> > | interrupt-controller;
> > | #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >
> > | acin-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | vin2-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | vin3-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | ldo24in-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
> > | ldo3in-supply = <®_axp_ipsout>;
>
> We should not be using reg_axp_ipsout, as it is an unregulated supply,
> and can be left out.
Can it? Doesn't the regulator driver need to know the input voltage?
> > would be needed anyway as it is not in sun7i-a20.dtsi, followed by the
> > regulators, to switch them on. Now a dtsi would make sense, if it shortens
> > the device specific information.
> >
> > Should not the section above together with the full regulators be in axp209.dtsi
> > and only the regulators be mentioned in the boards dts, to switch them on? Isn't
> > this stuff that should be included in sun7i-a20.dtsi anyway, somehow?
>
> It is entirely possible to make a board without using the PMIC, as Olimex
> has demonstrated. sun7i-a20 only describes the common SoC bits.
Or even with a different PMIC.
Maxime
--
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-15 21:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-13 9:39 Including empty regulator nodes in axp209.dtsi is a BAD idea Hans de Goede
2015-01-13 9:39 ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-13 16:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-13 16:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-14 7:42 ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-14 7:42 ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-14 8:11 ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
2015-01-14 8:11 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-01-15 16:54 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-01-15 16:54 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-01-15 22:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-15 22:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-16 0:58 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-01-16 0:58 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-01-16 7:42 ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-16 7:42 ` Hans de Goede
2015-01-15 21:57 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-15 21:57 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-14 10:18 ` [linux-sunxi] " Lars Doelle
2015-01-14 10:18 ` Lars Doelle
2015-01-15 16:48 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-01-15 16:48 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-01-15 21:51 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2015-01-15 21:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-01-15 23:41 ` [linux-sunxi] " Lars Doelle
2015-01-15 23:41 ` Lars Doelle
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