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From: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Lucas Stach <l.stach-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Viresh Kumar
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Subject: Re: [RFC V2] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:52:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150123115206.GT21293@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1422013154.29475.11.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:39:14PM +0100, Lucas Stach wrote:

> > +  Required properties:
> > +  - opp-khz: Frequency in kHz
> > +  - opp-microvolt: voltage in micro Volts

> Each OPP voltage should be defined by the triplet of minimum,
> nominal/typical, maximum. This lets you specify exact tolerances in each
> direction and should cover most use-cases.

> IMHO it would make sense to just define opp-microvolt as an array of
> those 3 values, so the DT doesn't get bloated with a lot more
> properties.

> A typical value for a CPU could then look like this:
> opp-microvolt = <800000 850000 1100000>

I tend to agree that this is clearer.  It might be nice to have variants
for specifying directly as a percentage but I don't think it's really
worth the complexity.

> For devices without any tolerance you can just specify the same value
> three times and be done with it:
> opp-microvolt = <900000 900000 900000>

If we change the binding to be typ/min/max rather than min/typ/max then
we could also do this by allowing either one or three values to be
specified.  That might be more worth the complexity especially given...

> > +  Optional properties:
> > +  - turbo-mode: Marks the volt-freq pair as turbo pair.
> > +  - status: Marks the node enabled/disabled.
> > +  - voltage-tolerance: Specify the CPU voltage tolerance in percentage.

> Please let's drop this.

DT bindings are supposed to be stable, this means the code should accept
old bindings and they should be documented as deprecated.

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From: broonie@kernel.org (Mark Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC V2] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:52:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150123115206.GT21293@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1422013154.29475.11.camel@pengutronix.de>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:39:14PM +0100, Lucas Stach wrote:

> > +  Required properties:
> > +  - opp-khz: Frequency in kHz
> > +  - opp-microvolt: voltage in micro Volts

> Each OPP voltage should be defined by the triplet of minimum,
> nominal/typical, maximum. This lets you specify exact tolerances in each
> direction and should cover most use-cases.

> IMHO it would make sense to just define opp-microvolt as an array of
> those 3 values, so the DT doesn't get bloated with a lot more
> properties.

> A typical value for a CPU could then look like this:
> opp-microvolt = <800000 850000 1100000>

I tend to agree that this is clearer.  It might be nice to have variants
for specifying directly as a percentage but I don't think it's really
worth the complexity.

> For devices without any tolerance you can just specify the same value
> three times and be done with it:
> opp-microvolt = <900000 900000 900000>

If we change the binding to be typ/min/max rather than min/typ/max then
we could also do this by allowing either one or three values to be
specified.  That might be more worth the complexity especially given...

> > +  Optional properties:
> > +  - turbo-mode: Marks the volt-freq pair as turbo pair.
> > +  - status: Marks the node enabled/disabled.
> > +  - voltage-tolerance: Specify the CPU voltage tolerance in percentage.

> Please let's drop this.

DT bindings are supposed to be stable, this means the code should accept
old bindings and they should be documented as deprecated.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-23 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-23 10:44 [RFC V2] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings Viresh Kumar
2015-01-23 10:44 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-23 11:39 ` Lucas Stach
2015-01-23 11:39   ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]   ` <1422013154.29475.11.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-23 11:52     ` Mark Brown [this message]
2015-01-23 11:52       ` Mark Brown
2015-01-23 12:55       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-23 12:55         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-23 12:53   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-23 12:53     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-28 20:06 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-28 20:06   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]   ` <20150128200600.GR21293-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-29  1:39     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-29  1:39       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-29 11:07       ` Mark Brown
2015-01-29 11:07         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]         ` <20150129110744.GU21293-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-29 11:34           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-29 11:34             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-29 15:42       ` Rob Herring
2015-01-29 15:42         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]         ` <CAL_Jsq+mhuR-DnjXo9Mmgpazgb_3R+sm+Ztkd7+6Q3iVw0aKOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-30  5:17           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-30  5:17             ` Viresh Kumar
     [not found] ` <cbe949d7a69c3b16a3e9d6e5429eb81d3ae9d8b9.1422009157.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-23 10:46   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-23 10:46     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-29 16:22   ` Rob Herring
2015-01-29 16:22     ` Rob Herring
2015-01-30  5:36     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-30  5:36       ` Viresh Kumar

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