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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Wang, Yalin" <Yalin.Wang@sonymobile.com>
Cc: "'Kirill A. Shutemov'" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"'arnd@arndb.de'" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"'linux-arch@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'linux@arm.linux.org.uk'" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"'linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org'"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] change non-atomic bitops method
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:38:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150202223851.f30768d0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D1044A02027E0C@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net>

On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:42:45 +0800 "Wang, Yalin" <Yalin.Wang@sonymobile.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> #ifdef CHECK_BEFORE_SET
> 			if (p[i] != times)
> #endif
>
> ...
>
> ----
> One run on CPU0, reader thread run on CPU1,
> Test result:
> sudo ./cache_test
> reader:8.426228173
> 8.672198335
> 
> With -DCHECK_BEFORE_SET
> sudo ./cache_test_check
> reader:7.537036819
> 10.799746531
> 

You aren't measuring the right thing.  You should compare

	if (p[i] != x)
		p[i] = x;

versus

	p[i] = x;

and you should do this for two cases:

a) p[i] == x

b) p[i] != x


The first code sequence will be slower when (p[i] != x) and faster when
(p[i] == x).


Next, we should instrument the kernel to work out the frequency of
set_bit on an already-set bit.

It is only with both these ratios that we can work out whether the
patch is a net gain.  My suspicion is that set_bit on an already-set
bit is so rare that the patch will be a loss.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: akpm@linux-foundation.org (Andrew Morton)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] change non-atomic bitops method
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:38:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150202223851.f30768d0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D1044A02027E0C@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net>

On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:42:45 +0800 "Wang, Yalin" <Yalin.Wang@sonymobile.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> #ifdef CHECK_BEFORE_SET
> 			if (p[i] != times)
> #endif
>
> ...
>
> ----
> One run on CPU0, reader thread run on CPU1,
> Test result:
> sudo ./cache_test
> reader:8.426228173
> 8.672198335
> 
> With -DCHECK_BEFORE_SET
> sudo ./cache_test_check
> reader:7.537036819
> 10.799746531
> 

You aren't measuring the right thing.  You should compare

	if (p[i] != x)
		p[i] = x;

versus

	p[i] = x;

and you should do this for two cases:

a) p[i] == x

b) p[i] != x


The first code sequence will be slower when (p[i] != x) and faster when
(p[i] == x).


Next, we should instrument the kernel to work out the frequency of
set_bit on an already-set bit.

It is only with both these ratios that we can work out whether the
patch is a net gain.  My suspicion is that set_bit on an already-set
bit is so rare that the patch will be a loss.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-03  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-02  3:55 [RFC] change non-atomic bitops method Wang, Yalin
2015-02-02  3:55 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-02 18:53 ` Laura Abbott
2015-02-02 18:53   ` Laura Abbott
2015-02-02 19:31 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-02-02 19:31   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-02-03 15:14   ` David Howells
2015-02-03 15:14     ` David Howells
2015-02-03 15:14     ` David Howells
2015-02-03 19:10     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-02-03 19:10       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-02-02 23:29 ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-02 23:29   ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-02 23:31   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 23:31     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03  1:17   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-02-03  1:17     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-02-03  2:13     ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  2:13       ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  5:42       ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  5:42         ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  6:38         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2015-02-03  6:38           ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-03  7:03           ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  7:03             ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  8:42             ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  8:42               ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03 10:59               ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-03 10:59                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-09  8:18                 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-09  8:18                   ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-09 20:34                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-09 20:34                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-10  7:05                     ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-10  7:05                       ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-09 21:42                   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-02-09 21:42                     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-02-09 21:42                     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-02-03  8:40           ` David Miller
2015-02-03  8:40             ` David Miller
2015-02-03  8:48             ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-03  8:48               ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-03  9:34           ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-02-03  9:34             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-02-03  9:34             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2015-02-03  9:41             ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03  9:41               ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-03 10:39     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-02-03 10:39       ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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