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From: "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/5] x86: Split syscall_trace_enter into two phases
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 02:39:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150205233945.GA31540@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJtHT9o8WMoynifN13=uZoARt4G9iVcgZsc9xYOBEwWsg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 03:12:39PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 01:27:16PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:13:54PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>> >> This splits syscall_trace_enter into syscall_trace_enter_phase1 and
> >>> >> syscall_trace_enter_phase2.  Only phase 2 has full pt_regs, and only
> >>> >> phase 2 is permitted to modify any of pt_regs except for orig_ax.
> >>> >
> >>> > This breaks ptrace, see below.
> >>> >
[...]
> >>> >> +             ret = seccomp_phase1(&sd);
> >>> >> +             if (ret == SECCOMP_PHASE1_SKIP) {
> >>> >> +                     regs->orig_ax = -1;
> >>> >
> >>> > How the tracer is expected to get the correct syscall number after that?
> >>>
> >>> There shouldn't be a tracer if a skip is encountered. (A seccomp skip
> >>> would skip ptrace.) This behavior hasn't changed, but maybe I don't
> >>> see what you mean? (I haven't encountered any problems with syscall
> >>> tracing as a result of these changes.)
> >>
> >> SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO leads to SECCOMP_PHASE1_SKIP, and if there is a tracer,
> >> it will get -1 as a syscall number.
> >>
> >> I've found this while testing a strace parser for
> >> SECCOMP_MODE_FILTER/SECCOMP_SET_MODE_FILTER, so the problem is quite real.
> >
> > Hasn't it always been this way?
> 
> As far as I know, yes, it's always been this way. The point is to the
> skip the syscall, which is what the -1 signals. Userspace then reads
> back the errno.

There is a clear difference: before these changes, SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO used
to keep the syscall number unchanged and suppress syscall-exit-stop event,
which was awful because userspace cannot distinguish syscall-enter-stop
from syscall-exit-stop and therefore relies on the kernel that
syscall-enter-stop is followed by syscall-exit-stop (or tracee's death, etc.).

After these changes, SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO no longer causes syscall-exit-stop
events to be suppressed, but now the syscall number is lost.


-- 
ldv

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From: ldv@altlinux.org (Dmitry V. Levin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 3/5] x86: Split syscall_trace_enter into two phases
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 02:39:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150205233945.GA31540@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJtHT9o8WMoynifN13=uZoARt4G9iVcgZsc9xYOBEwWsg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 03:12:39PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 01:27:16PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@altlinux.org> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:13:54PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>> >> This splits syscall_trace_enter into syscall_trace_enter_phase1 and
> >>> >> syscall_trace_enter_phase2.  Only phase 2 has full pt_regs, and only
> >>> >> phase 2 is permitted to modify any of pt_regs except for orig_ax.
> >>> >
> >>> > This breaks ptrace, see below.
> >>> >
[...]
> >>> >> +             ret = seccomp_phase1(&sd);
> >>> >> +             if (ret == SECCOMP_PHASE1_SKIP) {
> >>> >> +                     regs->orig_ax = -1;
> >>> >
> >>> > How the tracer is expected to get the correct syscall number after that?
> >>>
> >>> There shouldn't be a tracer if a skip is encountered. (A seccomp skip
> >>> would skip ptrace.) This behavior hasn't changed, but maybe I don't
> >>> see what you mean? (I haven't encountered any problems with syscall
> >>> tracing as a result of these changes.)
> >>
> >> SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO leads to SECCOMP_PHASE1_SKIP, and if there is a tracer,
> >> it will get -1 as a syscall number.
> >>
> >> I've found this while testing a strace parser for
> >> SECCOMP_MODE_FILTER/SECCOMP_SET_MODE_FILTER, so the problem is quite real.
> >
> > Hasn't it always been this way?
> 
> As far as I know, yes, it's always been this way. The point is to the
> skip the syscall, which is what the -1 signals. Userspace then reads
> back the errno.

There is a clear difference: before these changes, SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO used
to keep the syscall number unchanged and suppress syscall-exit-stop event,
which was awful because userspace cannot distinguish syscall-enter-stop
from syscall-exit-stop and therefore relies on the kernel that
syscall-enter-stop is followed by syscall-exit-stop (or tracee's death, etc.).

After these changes, SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO no longer causes syscall-exit-stop
events to be suppressed, but now the syscall number is lost.


-- 
ldv

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-05 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-05 22:13 [PATCH v5 0/5] x86: two-phase syscall tracing and seccomp fastpath Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] x86,x32,audit: Fix x32's AUDIT_ARCH wrt audit Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09  2:43   ` [tip:x86/seccomp] x86, x32, audit: " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] x86,entry: Only call user_exit if TIF_NOHZ Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09  2:43   ` [tip:x86/seccomp] x86, entry: " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] x86: Split syscall_trace_enter into two phases Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09  2:44   ` [tip:x86/seccomp] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-05 21:19   ` [PATCH v5 3/5] " Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-05 21:19     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-05 21:27     ` Kees Cook
2015-02-05 21:27       ` Kees Cook
2015-02-05 21:40       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-05 21:40         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-05 21:52         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-05 21:52           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-05 23:12           ` Kees Cook
2015-02-05 23:12             ` Kees Cook
2015-02-05 23:39             ` Dmitry V. Levin [this message]
2015-02-05 23:39               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-05 23:49               ` Kees Cook
2015-02-05 23:49                 ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06  0:09                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06  0:09                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06  2:32                   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-06  2:32                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-06  2:38                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06  2:38                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 19:23                       ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06 19:23                         ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06 19:32                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 19:32                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 20:07                           ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06 20:07                             ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06 20:12                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 20:12                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 20:16                               ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06 20:16                                 ` Kees Cook
2015-02-06 20:20                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 20:20                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-06 23:17                             ` a method to distinguish between syscall-enter/exit-stop Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-06 23:17                               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-07  1:07                               ` Kees Cook
2015-02-07  1:07                                 ` Kees Cook
2015-02-07  3:04                                 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-07  3:04                                   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2015-02-06 20:11                         ` [PATCH v5 3/5] x86: Split syscall_trace_enter into two phases H. Peter Anvin
2015-02-06 20:11                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 22:13 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] x86_64,entry: Treat regs->ax the same in fastpath and slowpath syscalls Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13   ` [PATCH v5 4/5] x86_64, entry: " Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09  2:44   ` [tip:x86/seccomp] x86_64, entry: Treat regs-> ax " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] x86_64,entry: Use split-phase syscall_trace_enter for 64-bit syscalls Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05 22:13   ` [PATCH v5 5/5] x86_64, entry: " Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09  2:44   ` [tip:x86/seccomp] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-08 19:29 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] x86: two-phase syscall tracing and seccomp fastpath Kees Cook
2014-09-08 19:29   ` Kees Cook
2014-09-08 19:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-08 19:49     ` H. Peter Anvin

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